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  • OmegaPaladin posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 1 month, 1 week ago

    Has anyone else tried their hand at Gopher? If you wanted a real Samizdat, using a protocol most social justice monkeys don’t know exists is a start.

    Also, I have MetaARPA access over at sdf.net , so I can verify people if you want.

    • You can find an article of mine at my gopherhole, under haakonda


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    • There’s an Android app called “DiggieDog” for perusing gopherspace.

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 3 months, 3 weeks ago

    Subj: God Damn.

    Body: I am happy with my membership at thunix.net, run in part by fellow Ratburgher ubergeek. But [insert title here], it’s frustrating. And it shouldn’t be. I come from Unix a little. I used it in college, back when Bill Clinton was president. And heaven knows I am comfortable in DOS, which is what most modern humans think of when they see a unix.

    But I was defeated in my attempt to get some documents online. I could not overcome the *^&%#)( curly-braces problem. They’re not UTF-8, they;re not ISO 15 something something, and I DO NOT CARE. But apparently I…[Read more]

    • I’m not sure what problem you’re having with moving documents from Ratburger’s WordPress environment to *nix text files. All of the content output by WordPress is in UTF-8 (Unicode encoded as a stream of 8 bit bytes). If you export that content (for example, by saving an HTML file, or by copying from a document and pasting into an editor that supports UTF-8 then saving the file, you should end up with a UTF-8 file. On Unix, you can determine the character code of a text file with the command:

      file –mime-encoding myfile.txt

      which will show you the encoding like:

      index.html:…[Read more]

    • I use Nano. I’ll see about (yet again) getting JED as JSTAR or sommat.
      John, I agree, the 8859-1 or 12-something-15 encodings *should* work. But it doesn’t. Neither do any of the usual suspect ANSI, DOS, or WIndows encodings. And when iconv pukes on input, there is of course, no output.
      I can see plain as day in the hex viewer that I’m dealing with \x93 and \x94, but but but…
      I could simply go through the thing by hand, but (and I’m really calming myself to say this) that’s not what we have computers for.

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Made it! Got my account underway with thunix.net.

    Ohh, I have much to learn. I already had to finally learn to use text PKI (as opposed to token-based, which I’ve had for fifteen years through employers). Just to log in, indeed, to request an account, I had to learn how to generate a keypair.

    I saw a directory called Maildir, so I tried pine No dice. Alpine. Dice! Ran the setup and bailed once it got its feet under itself. Then tried ‘mail’ which worked, but (long story short) alpine has already grabbed responsibility for my mail. So even if I send from mail, the response…[Read more]

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Welcome to the tildeverse…
    https://tildeverse.org/
    That links to the top site of the “webring”. I have applied at thunix.net, which is one of the participating *nix sites in the tildeverse.
    Hmmm, it seems I will need to generate an SSH key. It asked me for one on the login page, which I of course left blank. I’ll get hot on that. I want to get my PGP on anyway.

    • When setting up an account, you need to specify an SSH public key because that’s how login works (most sites have abandoned password authentication due to its many risks). You generate an SSH โ€œkey pairโ€ consisting of a private key and public key. You keep the private key secure in your own possession, and install the public key on systems to which you wish to log in. Then, when you go to log in, you supply the private key to your SSH client, which sets up a secure channel to the remote system which has your public key. Since it isn’t possible to recover the private key from the…[Read more]


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    • “As long as you carefully protect your private key, youโ€™re secure.”
      So, as long as I never use it on any operating system made since about 1997, I’m good.

    • Let me know if your account wasn’t created, with the username you had. I’ll get it done in short order for you ๐Ÿ™‚

    • uber, I tried again, having mastered the art of puttygen in a damned hurry on a laptop with 12% battery. Heh. I spared the intro, and just dropped your name.
      Thank you!

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    So user ubergeek commented on a post of mine [https://www.ratburger.org/index.php/2018/10/22/the-sorry-state-of-public-access-unix/#comment-43093], pointing me to an heretofore-unknown-to-me collection of thriving (?) *nix sites / collections, the tildeverse.

    I’m in.

  • Rick Poach posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 8 months ago

    A tweet from the heart.

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  • bruce posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 8 months, 1 week ago

    History, Evolution and Future of PublicAccess Unix Systems
    https://archive.org/details/pubax_unix
    Download for working hyperlinks – see bottom, right.

  • bruce posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 8 months, 2 weeks ago

    The last few weeks I have been exploring SDF and waiting for my account to be validated. I browsed the Grex site as well and found ROUS. Can anyone who attempted to validate their SDF account comment on how long that takes. If anyone has joined both please share your thoughts.

    • No clue. Hit me up on mail there. haakonda@sdf.org. haven;t checked in on Grex in a while — can;t get out of the MENU meta-shell.

    • I will send a email when my sdf account is validated. I sent in $1 because I just wanted validation to explore a bit. Now that I see Public Access Unix is on the ropes generally and SDF is like an old factory somehow keeping the lights on. Maybe I should have sent in more money ๐Ÿ™‚ I think there is a place for SDF and Grex as pure text based operations. Hard to say more until I can get in the door and explore.

    • Welcome! Barhawk, may I invite you to start an account over at sdf.org? We may soon achieve a critical mass to actually have a conversation over there. This project has the full support of Ratburger — we’re not poaching — we’re developing (or practicing) skills.

    • It’s on my list to do. I have to establish a different email so G doesn’t know.

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 1 year ago

    The “other” Public Access Unix site, grex.org, finally validated my account and sent me a welcome e-mail. Looks like grex.org is back in business!

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 1 year, 1 month ago

    The Sorry State of Public Access Unix
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    My beloved sdf.org seems to be on hard times. I have no idea what the funding picture is, but they are in the throes of an upgrade for which THEY are the single largest test site — NetBSD 8. It’s not pretty, and it’s pretty lonely.
    I looked into some others, namely grex.org, which has not returned my mail or upgraded my initial toy membership to something useful, and arbornet.org, which will not even go past the first screen of new user account creation.
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    Public Access Unix is a good thing in and…[Read more]

    • It would really amazing if Project Gutenberg or Wikipedia or more technical resources like the OEIS were on gopher. The real challenge for gopher is the accumulation of enough information to become attractive. I’d also imagine a more easy to use to gopherspace creator for phlogs and similar items would open it up to more people. It is already quite simple.

  • OmegaPaladin posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 1 year, 1 month ago

    Haakon, I was poking at SDF, and it says that if a current SDF user recommended me, they can validate me. You might want to look into that.

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 1 year, 1 month ago

    *The Lesson of Vi*
    The most important thing to know in unix is not how to find help. It is knowing how to quit the program. Use help to learn how to quit.
    In emacs, you quit the program with ^C^X.
    In pico, you hit ^X.
    In Pine, you hit q.
    In vi, you have to have a button installed under your desk, left of the gun and below the humidor.

    • It is not for nothing that the middle two letters of the word *evil* are “vi”.
      (Yes, I use vi, and may or may not be evil.)

  • Haakon Dahl posted an update in the group Group logo of R.O.U.S.R.O.U.S. 1 year, 1 month ago

    Omega, John, Temp, Cyrano, Modus: Nobody has sent me e-mail. I feel very put out. Soon I will live the Dime experience.

    Who has been able to start an account so far?

    • I am waiting for my check to arrive and my validation (and ARPA status) to be granted. I do not believe probationary users can send email.

    • Hmm. SO it would appear. I have a test account there “capybara@~”, and I cannot seem to mail from it. OTOH, there are signs of b0rkenness abounding there — SDF is in the throes of beta-testing the world’s largest and newest NetBSD installation. Welcome to version 8, apparently.

    • I’m not sure if it got through, but I tried sending one to you just now.
      It might be a good idea try sending an email to one of us:
      mdpq@sdf.org

    • Got your mail! Responded over there.

    • Sent you an email. Going to play with that later.

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