Fight Fire More with Also Fire, Too

They’re so smug and smarmy over at R>.  Oh, yes this is another of those posts, which seems to dwell inexplicably an a website in another membership tier, far far away, which we all profess to disdain,and yet which we cannot chase from our personal lengthy lists of particular flies from which to pull the wings.

Have at them, then!  I unveil the first nomination for the”R-than-thou” texty-logo contest:

(>R<)

What could be more RatBurger than that?  Do your worst. Or your best. It’s all the same.

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53 thoughts on “Fight Fire More with Also Fire, Too”

  1. I wish this post could have been put up on Ricochet but that is not possible. It is here because unlike Ricochet we are a free forum that allows various discussions. If you like this post, comment. If you don’t ignore it or state your reasons.

    I know Haakon. He is a soft hearted person who loves to resolve things. He is a “in your face type” person. He tackles problems head on.

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  2. I needed to see this tonight.   Actions over yonder resulted my contemplating on how to throw poop-pies electronically tonight.  Thanks for posting Haakon.

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  3. TempTime:
    I needed to see this tonight.   Actions over yonder resulted my contemplating on how to throw poop-pies electronically tonight.  Thanks for posting Haakon.

    Good to see the Minky has a rival. He can throw foo farther than almost anyone.

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  4. O Ratty, all I can tell you is, what happened to me, what I did, yesterday, was hideously embarrassing and is even more so now in the morning light.

    It was the cyber-equivalent of trashing somebody who turns out to be standing right  behind you.   It was awful.

    And as 10C reminds us, everybody can see our posts, even if they’re  not members–and you can bet everybody from Elsewhere is watching, cuz they know we’re talking about THEM.

    So go tell your baby sister/Not to do what I have done…

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  5. Hypatia:
    O Ratty, all I can tell you is, what happened to me, what I did, yesterday, was hideously embarrassing and is even more so now in the morning light.

    It was the cyber-equivalent of trashing somebody who turns out to be standing right  behind you.   It was awful.

    And as 10C reminds us, everybody can see our posts, even if they’re  not members–and you can bet everybody from Elsewhere is watching, cuz they know we’re talking about THEM.

    So go tell your baby sister/Not to do what I have done…

    Hey, don’t be so tough on yourself. We all have done similar things. Ratburger is a place where  people can be human.

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  6. Fighting fire with fire feels good but doesn’t accomplish much. It is better to get ahead than get even. Even if the head is head of your enemy. (Did you see what I did there?)

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  7. Pencilvania:
    there’s a bunch of squares there. I’m sorry if my high math ability confuses you.

    I don’t think you are sorry. I think you enjoy it.  🙂

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  8. 10 Cents:

    Hypatia:
    O Ratty, all I can tell you is, what happened to me, what I did, yesterday, was hideously embarrassing and is even more so now in the morning light.

    It was the cyber-equivalent of trashing somebody who turns out to be standing right  behind you.   It was awful.

    And as 10C reminds us, everybody can see our posts, even if they’re  not members–and you can bet everybody from Elsewhere is watching, cuz they know we’re talking about THEM.

    So go tell your baby sister/Not to do what I have done…

    Hey, don’t be so tough on yourself. We all have done similar things. Ratburger is a place where  people can be human.

    Thanks.  But really: why wouldn’t Pale Rattler,  and anybody else who reads about  him/herself here, just join up (hey, it’s free!) under a different name and avatar, to ambush and embarrass the commentator?

    And if that starts happening regularly here, we will just have created a micro(or maybe macro) cosm  of Elsewhere.  And you the Ref will be beleaguered.

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  9. Hypatia:

    10 Cents:

    Hypatia:
    O Ratty, all I can tell you is, what happened to me, what I did, yesterday, was hideously embarrassing and is even more so now in the morning light.

    It was the cyber-equivalent of trashing somebody who turns out to be standing right  behind you.   It was awful.

    And as 10C reminds us, everybody can see our posts, even if they’re  not members–and you can bet everybody from Elsewhere is watching, cuz they know we’re talking about THEM.

    So go tell your baby sister/Not to do what I have done…

    Hey, don’t be so tough on yourself. We all have done similar things. Ratburger is a place where  people can be human.

    Thanks.  But really: why wouldn’t Pale Rattler,  and anybody else who reads about  him/herself here, just join up (hey, it’s free!) under a different name and avatar, to ambush and embarrass the commentator?

    And if that starts happening regularly here, we will just have created a micro(or maybe macro) cosm  of Elsewhere.  And you the Ref will be beleaguered.

    There are a ton of ways to handle things.

    We have made it clear that people are welcome to use the site for entertainment and discussion but if they want to go into attack mode or troll mode that is not us. There are far better sites to do that on so they will be directed there professionally and politely.

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  10. The system has changed recently. A person can’t just sign up and comment. There is a probation period. This was installed so spammers couldn’t get on to the site unchecked. Thank John Walker.

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  11. My comments were in no way a criticism of how this site is set up.  (I know absolutely nothing and am in awe of such skills as you possess.) As I wrote last night,  I should have known what might happen, and I guess I did know,  but not realize.  Embarrassing.

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  12. Hypatia:
    My comments were in no way a criticism of how this site is set up.  (I know absolutely nothing and am in awe of such skills as you possess.) As I wrote last night,  I should have known what might happen, and I guess I did know,  but not realize.  Embarrassing.

    It wasn’t taken as criticism. They were great questions.

    Move on. You are smarter and wiser now. Hopefully you can be gracious to the next person who has an embarrassing moment.

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  13. They hate it when we talk about them, but they are fascinated.   They are drawn like moths to flame.

    The number of guests on this site spikes every time.

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  14. I ran across a podcast with the great Dennis Prager as a guest.  I’d forgotten what a joy it is to listen to his sage wisdom and laugh along with him at the insanity of the left.  And compare the resource of what he has built with Prager U to yet another Mona column, deep state podcast, the TDS of the mods and editors, or the leftist trolls posing as conservatives in the comments sections at.  Don’t bother, there IS no comparison.

    If R were to shut down tomorrow, who would even remember them in a year or two?  Some might recall it as a pale copy of NRO – “What was the name of that one website that was kinda like National Review but with some crazy trolls in the comments sections?  Rock, echo, or maybe pebble…something weird like that”

    This October I will happily say goodbye to the other place – so full of snark, smugness, and love for the swamp, and be part of the solution with Dennis.

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  15. So which movie trope are we dealing with here? Is it the one where one main character goes through a bad breakup and cries on the shoulder of the friend who is actually secretly in love with the main character and agonizes each time the unrequited love goes on and on about the obviously bad relationship they just left? Will the love become requited or will the friend find true love inunexpected places?

    Is it the one where the friend just gets tired of hearing about it, the main character hits rock bottom, and while scraping bottom and beginning self improvement then finds their real soul mate?

    Or is it the more rare script where the breakup leads to reconciliation eventually?

    Oh, geez, I forgot about the more obvious script: stalking in act two and murder in act three. If I can’t have you then no one will.

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  16. Let it go. Stop throwing good money after bad and supporting an intellectual ghetto with incompetent management. It’s not worth the stress when there are better sites like this one that run better and have a broader range of discussion without having to hold the same opinions as everyone else.

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  17. Ed G:
    So which movie trope are we dealing with here? Is it the one where one main character goes through a bad breakup and cries on the shoulder of the friend who is actually secretly in love with the main character and agonizes each time the unrequited love goes on and on about the obviously bad relationship they just left? Will the love become requited or will the friend find true love inunexpected places?

    Is it the one where the friend just gets tired of hearing about it, the main character hits rock bottom, and while scraping bottom and beginning self improvement then finds their real soul mate?

    Or is it the more rare script where the breakup leads to reconciliation eventually?

    Oh, geez, I forgot about the more obvious script: stalking in act two and murder in act three. If I can’t have you then no one will.

    This is not a movie. It is about real people. You are a good man, Ed G, with strong values. I believe compassion is one of them.

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  18. Ed G, please remember this is not Ricochet where snark and not engaging in the OP are standard fare. If you want to deal with real world things please do. If not I encourage you to find the movie review threads. I hope this is clear.

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  19. I wasn’t trying to be snarky. I was trying to be creatively gentle in saying that this site is not Ricochet and I genuinely hope this site takes off as its own thing and not as the shoulder to cry on. I’ve both cried on shoulders and had my shoulder cried on, and it gets old fast either way. It’s not any kind of foundation to build on. Perhaps I failed in this – definitely isn’t the first time and guaranteed won’t be the last. 

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  20. Ed G:
    I wasn’t trying to be snarky. I was trying to be creatively gentle in saying that this site is not Ricochet and I genuinely hope this site takes off as its own thing and not as the shoulder to cry on. I’ve both cried on shoulders and had my shoulder cried on, and it gets old fast either way. It’s not any kind of foundation to build on. Perhaps I failed in this – definitely isn’t the first time and guaranteed won’t be the last. 

    Thank you for clarifying.  This subject is not an easy one because people are at different stages. Some people need to talk and others need to get over it. I know you can contribute positive things for you understand both needs.

    I too will have my moments.

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