The Dumbing Down of America

I think social media has made us dumber. I just saw a post on Facebook from a vapid, rich, super privilege, and over educated NYC hipster friend, completely crapping on the Covington boys. It is like the evidence exonerating these boys never existed. It’s like the old adage, a lie can make it half way around the world before the truth can put it’s pants on.

This isn’t new for her. This chick falls for every single left wing hysteria. Every one. If the Huffington Post is freaking out about something, so is she. If the NY Times is freaking out about something so is she. This is followed by comments from all these other vapid, rich, super privileged over educated NYC hipsters I know, just agreeing with her. .

But these people aren’t stupid. I’ve known many of them since High School. We used to be able to debate ideas with each other back then.  What it is, is that they don’t freaking THINK anymore. With social media, people don’t think, they react. They also don’t realize how lopsided their own positions are. With this Covington incident, and remember to these people these boys are the scum of the Earth and anyone else with a MAGA hat. A friend commented how she was happy that people were scared to wear MAGA hats in NYC.  Do you think she realized how fascist that sounds? Probably not, but if I said that people in Kentucky were scared to wear their Hilary shirt, she’d blow a lid.

Social Media is dangerous, because it puts people into two camps. One side thinks and the other reacts, and I’m including Never Trumpers in the react side, this Covington case proves that. How do we put this genie back in the bottle?

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  1. Social Media is a tool. This site I suppose is social media and I have found that it has made me smarter. We can discuss things and learn.

    I blame the education system or should I say the lack of education system. When you kick values out you get weird with PhDs. People are taught right out lies and they are triggered by hate facts.

    I do agree that people would blow a lid if this happened to an “I’m with Her” type.

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  2. 10 Cents:
    Social Media is a tool. This site I suppose is social media and I have found that it has made me smarter. We can discuss things and learn.

    I blame the education system or should I say the lack of education system. When you kick values out you get weird with PhDs. People are taught right out lies and they are triggered by hate facts.

    I do agree that people would blow a lid if this happened to an “I’m with Her” type.

    I’m going to agree and disagree with you Dime. There is a percentage of people out there who have lost the ability to critically think and give the benefit of the doubt. There are people that are just swimming their own confirmation bias and don’t realize it and I don’t know how to get them to snap out of it.

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  3. Mate De:

    10 Cents:
    Social Media is a tool. This site I suppose is social media and I have found that it has made me smarter. We can discuss things and learn.

    I blame the education system or should I say the lack of education system. When you kick values out you get weird with PhDs. People are taught right out lies and they are triggered by hate facts.

    I do agree that people would blow a lid if this happened to an “I’m with Her” type.

    I’m going to agree and disagree with you Dime. There is a percentage of people out there who have lost the ability to critically think and give the benefit of the doubt. There are people that are just swimming their own confirmation bias and don’t realize it and I don’t know how to get them to snap out of it.

    Mate De, it took a lot of teachers to get them that dumb. I think we can agree people say and think stupidly and they don’t even know it. They are Pavlovian in their responses at times. Ring a bell and they salivate.

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  4. 10 Cents:
    Social Media is a tool. This site I suppose is social media and I have found that it has made me smarter. We can discuss things and learn.

    I blame the education system or should I say the lack of education system. When you kick values out you get weird with PhDs. People are taught right out lies and they are triggered by hate facts.

    I do agree that people would blow a lid if this happened to an “I’m with Her” type.

    The education approach has resulted in the creation of environments where any requirement for critical thinking is minimized and one can still feel included, so those who operate mainly on feelings are in. I don’t think that works on a site like this.

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  5. 10 Cents:

    Mate De:

    10 Cents:
    Social Media is a tool. This site I suppose is social media and I have found that it has made me smarter. We can discuss things and learn.

    I blame the education system or should I say the lack of education system. When you kick values out you get weird with PhDs. People are taught right out lies and they are triggered by hate facts.

    I do agree that people would blow a lid if this happened to an “I’m with Her” type.

    I’m going to agree and disagree with you Dime. There is a percentage of people out there who have lost the ability to critically think and give the benefit of the doubt. There are people that are just swimming their own confirmation bias and don’t realize it and I don’t know how to get them to snap out of it.

    Mate De, it took a lot of teachers to get them that dumb. I think we can agree people say and think stupidly and they don’t even know it. They are Pavlovian in their responses at times. Ring a bell and they salivate.

    Yea but I was taught by those same teachers. These are people i went to middle and high school with. How come I don’t freak out when the HuffPo does?

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  6. Mate De:

    10 Cents:

    Mate De:

    10 Cents:
    Social Media is a tool. This site I suppose is social media and I have found that it has made me smarter. We can discuss things and learn.

    I blame the education system or should I say the lack of education system. When you kick values out you get weird with PhDs. People are taught right out lies and they are triggered by hate facts.

    I do agree that people would blow a lid if this happened to an “I’m with Her” type.

    I’m going to agree and disagree with you Dime. There is a percentage of people out there who have lost the ability to critically think and give the benefit of the doubt. There are people that are just swimming their own confirmation bias and don’t realize it and I don’t know how to get them to snap out of it.

    Mate De, it took a lot of teachers to get them that dumb. I think we can agree people say and think stupidly and they don’t even know it. They are Pavlovian in their responses at times. Ring a bell and they salivate.

    Yea but I was taught by those same teachers. These are people i went to middle and high school with. How come I don’t freak out when the HuffPo does?

    You were a bad student. 🙂

    You chose a profession that required competency. You also had a stable home life. You like truth even if it goes against you.

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  7. At first, they know they are lying. But to them it’s performance art. There’s a thrill to getting away with the lie and being in on the big lie. As they forget that they are lying and start to believe, mob psychology takes over.

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  8. Mate De:
    But these people aren’t stupid. I’ve known many of them since High School. We used to be able to debate ideas with each other back then.  What it is, is that they don’t freaking THINK anymore. With social media, people don’t think, they react. They also don’t realize how lopsided their own positions are.

    The problem is not social media.   Ratburger.org is the exception that proves the rule.   I see other group blogs (primarily Christian ones) where I also enjoy intelligent conversation without emotional rants.

    The problem is that people are lazy.   Thinking can be hard work, and people can avoid the work of thinking by replacing thought with emotion.   Emotionalism is a spiritual trap that ensnares many people.

    Anger is one of the easiest emotional traps.   Especially if the culture leaders in Big Education and Big Entertainment are all cheerleading for anger at a particular outgroup.   That is how fascism takes root.

    The Bible speaks against anger.   It eats at your soul.

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  9. Mate De:
    A friend commented how she was happy that people were scared to wear MAGA hats in NYC.  Do you think she realized how fascist that sounds? Probably not, but if I said that people in Kentucky were scared to wear their Hilary shirt, she’d blow a lid.

    Actually, I don’t think people in Kentucky are scared to wear a Hillary shirt.

    I live in Tennessee and I am unaware of any personal confrontations on account of pro-Hillary or anti-Trump attire.   There were several incidents of vandalism to campaign signs during the 2016 campaign.

    I wondered about this enough to go looking on the internet.   I did not turn up much to support a case that people in any red state have been confronted over political attire.   I did see some incidents of violence, but they all turned out to be malicious vandalism, and then most of that was either in the fall of 2016, or else the victim had an idea that the perpetrator was trying to hide their true motives by taking their venom out on the campaign-themed signs or vehicles.

    I did find this column from the summer of 2016 by a columnist from Kentucky:

    Keven Moore: Yard signs, bumper stickers becoming targets for political hate crimes; stifles free speech

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  10. MJBubba:

    Mate De:
    A friend commented how she was happy that people were scared to wear MAGA hats in NYC.  Do you think she realized how fascist that sounds? Probably not, but if I said that people in Kentucky were scared to wear their Hilary shirt, she’d blow a lid.

    Actually, I don’t think people in Kentucky are scared to wear a Hillary shirt.

    I live in Tennessee and I am unaware of any personal confrontations on account of pro-Hillary or anti-Trump attire.   There were several incidents of vandalism to campaign signs during the 2016 campaign.

    I wondered about this enough to go looking on the internet.   I did not turn up much to support a case that people in any red state have been confronted over political attire.   I did see some incidents of violence, but they all turned out to be malicious vandalism, and then most of that was either in the fall of 2016, or else the victim had an idea that the perpetrator was trying to hide their true motives by taking their venom out on the campaign-themed signs or vehicles.

    I did find this column from the summer of 2016 by a columnist from Kentucky:

    Keven Moore: Yard signs, bumper stickers becoming targets for political hate crimes; stifles free speech

    That was my point. That this only goes one way, and these people I am referring to in the post don’t think there is anything wrong with that. You literally can’t wear a MAGA hats in lefty enclaves, like NYC, LA or San Francisco (and now DC apparently) or else you risk reprisals. That kind of harassment doesn’t happen in Red areas. A Hillary supporter can walk around any city or town in the USA and nothing will happen. We have plenty of videos of MAGA hat clad people being harassed. But all the evidence in the world won’t change these peoples minds about how evil their ideology is.

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  11. Mate De:

    10 Cents:

    Mate De:

    10 Cents:
    Social Media is a tool. This site I suppose is social media and I have found that it has made me smarter. We can discuss things and learn.

    I blame the education system or should I say the lack of education system. When you kick values out you get weird with PhDs. People are taught right out lies and they are triggered by hate facts.

    I do agree that people would blow a lid if this happened to an “I’m with Her” type.

    I’m going to agree and disagree with you Dime. There is a percentage of people out there who have lost the ability to critically think and give the benefit of the doubt. There are people that are just swimming their own confirmation bias and don’t realize it and I don’t know how to get them to snap out of it.

    Mate De, it took a lot of teachers to get them that dumb. I think we can agree people say and think stupidly and they don’t even know it. They are Pavlovian in their responses at times. Ring a bell and they salivate.

    Yea but I was taught by those same teachers. These are people i went to middle and high school with. How come I don’t freak out when the HuffPo does?

    I think a person’s temperament, especially as influenced by thinking or feeling preferences, has much to do with whether critical thinking can break through the conditions imposed by the educational approach. You are fortunate to have been blessed.

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  12. The tendencies were always potentially there. The internet and social media, but specifically the portability of having these things in your hand at all times, are feeding the impulse that everythinghastohappenRIGHTNOW!!!! No one is taking a breath, thinking, showing a little skepticism about anything. You could argue this goes back beyond the internet to Headline News/CNN which changed how breaking news was covered and the need to gin up stories to fill programming hours or even to newspapers before that which ran special editions just to get a story out first. What’s different now is the internet allows everyone to share those stories and work themselves into a lather in an echo chamber at a much faster rate than ever before. Is this behavior any different than an 18th century lynch mob that got worked up over gossip, though?

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  13. Mate De:
    I was a bad student.

    Bet you weren’t!

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and as an English major, I wonder if this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computer.

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  14. EThompson:

    Mate De:
    I was a bad student.

    Bet you weren’t!

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and as an English major, I wonder if this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computer.

     

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and, as an English major, I wonder if the people of this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computers.

    FIFY.

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  15. ctlaw:

    EThompson:

    Mate De:
    I was a bad student.

    Bet you weren’t!

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and as an English major, I wonder if this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computer.

     

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and, as an English major, I wonder if the people of this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computers.

    FIFY.

    All of us should have some humility when it comes to errors. I noticed no one caught the “to to”.  🙂

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  16. Perhaps I need to stop posting here. I have 3 computers going at once from 9-5 set up for trades with tremendous drops and gains every nano-second but at least I’m making money while others pick at typos.

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    ctlaw:

    EThompson:

    Mate De:
    I was a bad student.

    Bet you weren’t!

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and as an English major, I wonder if this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computer.

     

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and, as an English major, I wonder if the people of this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computers.

    FIFY.

    All of us should have some humility when it comes to errors. I noticed no one caught the “to to”.  🙂

    Plenty of people make typos, use incorrect grammar, misspell, etc. on this site. It’s understandable and I would never criticize another member for doing so. There’s something called life going on and it interferes with the petty and classless observations made by you and HD and ctlaw.

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  18. EThompson:

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    ctlaw:

    EThompson:

    Mate De:
    I was a bad student.

    Bet you weren’t!

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and as an English major, I wonder if this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computer.

     

    Anyway, I’m appalled at texting and, as an English major, I wonder if the people of this nation will ever know to to spell again without their computers.

    FIFY.

    All of us should have some humility when it comes to errors. I noticed no one caught the “to to”.  🙂

    Plenty of people make typos, use incorrect grammar, misspell, etc. on this site. It’s understandable and I would never criticize another member for doing so. There’s something called life going on and it interferes with the petty and classless observations made by you and HD and ctlaw.

    I understand. I make a lot of typos. I don’t mind at all when people tease or help me out.

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  19. EThompson:
    Perhaps I need to stop posting here. I have 3 computers going at once from 9-5 set up for trades with tremendous drops and gains every nano-second but at least I’m making money while others pick at typos.

    I don’t want you to stop posting here.

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  20. The fundamental issue is these students are under the impression that the government or some collective can solve our problems.

    That’s the entire premise of government. But government should be a referee, not a player.

    Then they were told that government should solve any and all problems (on top of the problems that government has already created to which they themselves will ultimately admit after half a century)

    Now we have a generation who’ve been told they must do something about these problems. They have been harangued, agitated and befrenzied.

    It’s an appeal to ego CAN

    An appeal to guilt. SHOULD

    An appeal to narcissism and a call to action MUST

    These young people are benighted as leaders, advocates, activists.  So concerned they must be and so frustrating to believe that somehow existing institutions, practices, social mores are the causes of all the problems, and some abstract “we” are going to affect social change through government edicts.

    Asking these questions

    Can we?

    Should  we?

    Must we?

    This is the meta-environment that needs to be changed.

    If  anything but to relieve these poor souls of the mantle of changing the world.

    But this overblown expectation of our abilities to solve problems politically -which means government involvement and enforcement – and the massive conceit that, once implemented, these changes will have a positive effect.

    But now we are entering Thought-Crime land.

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  21. Franco:
    The fundamental issue is these students are under the impression that the government or some collective can solve our problems.

    That’s the entire premise of government. But government should be a referee, not a player.

    Then they were told that government should solve any and all problems (on top of the problems that government has already created to which they themselves will ultimately admit after half a century)

    Now we have a generation who’ve been told they must do something about these problems. They have been harangued, agitated and befrenzied.

    It’s an appeal to ego CAN

    An appeal to guilt. SHOULD

    An appeal to narcissism and a call to action MUST

    These young people are benighted as leaders, advocates, activists.  So concerned they must be and so frustrating to believe that somehow existing institutions, practices, social mores are the causes of all the problems, and some abstract “we” are going to affect social change through government edicts.

    Asking these questions

    Can we?

    Should  we?

    Must we?

    This is the meta-environment that needs to be changed.

    If  anything but to relieve these poor souls of the mantle of changing the world.

    But this overblown expectation of our abilities to solve problems politically -which means government involvement and enforcement – and the massive conceit that, once implemented, these changes will have a positive effect.

    But now we are entering Thought-Crime land.

    All of this requires the erasing and destruction of individual liberty. Too big a price.

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  22. I didn’t realize that Orwell coined “Facecrime”.  That is having the wrong expression on your face.

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