A Bad Guy: Jeffrey Epstein

Where was everyone? Jeffrey Epstein manipulated and abused young girls for years. Maybe the number is in the hundreds. These girls were lured by the cash and high life.  Some I heard at the beginning got $300 for giving Epstein just a massage. He knew they were underage but continued.

It bothers me that I have heard of no parent coming forward talking about how they were aware of this predator at the time. How did they not know their daughters were getting this extra cash? Were they so derelict to be unaware of the dangers? Did they have stars in their eyes because he was a rich man?

Bad people survive and continue to hurt people when good people are silent. Unfortunately, silence is a form of consent. I understand how people don’t want to get involved. There is cost. It is gut wrenching to see an interview of a girl who has to deal with her guilt knowing that her silence allowed the “fifty shades of black” to continue.

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  1. I have been hearing talk and gossip about Epstein for several years. If 10% is true, he is a very evil guy.  It seems like the amount of maneuver and misdirection by powerful people is increasing, shifting the focus to Acosta as the bad guy and all those who took thousands and more in cash as now righteously indignant.

    The bad guy is the bad guy. The people who took cash and looked the other way are bad guys. The people who he blackmailed are bad guys.

    It will be painful to watch the lies, misdirection and outright fabrication the bad guys will use to avoid the pain.

    This works if we deplorables keep focused on who the bad guys are.

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  2. TKC 1101:
    I have been hearing talk and gossip about Epstein for several years. If 10% is true, he is a very evil guy.  It seems like the amount of maneuver and misdirection by powerful people is increasing, shifting the focus to Acosta as the bad guy and all those who took thousands and more in cash as now righteously indignant.

    The bad guy is the bad guy. The people who took cash and looked the other way are bad guys. The people who he blackmailed are bad guys.

    It will be painful to watch the lies, misdirection and outright fabrication the bad guys will use to avoid the pain.

    This works if we deplorables keep focused on who the bad guys are.

    I get tired of the Casablanca “I’m shocked that gambling is going on.” Powerful people allowed this to happened and I hope their actions come to the light of day.

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  3. Epstein has lots of money and the willingness to use it to buy silence.

    Nobody seems to be able to say just how it was he came by so much money.

    We have known that he was rumored to be taking underage girls to his private island for over twenty years.   We have known that some celebrities, including Bill Clinton, have traveled with Epstein on his jet.   Evidently those two things have only been rumored to be linked.

    Journalists have been notably un-curious about Epstein.   My guess is that he has paid off publishers to kill stories.

    I saw a blogger guessing that he has damaging intel on some high level politicians and businessmen.

    I thought it really interesting that his lawyers offered that Epstein will sing names, dates and locations to the prosecutor in exchange for a sentence of only five years.   He is definitely guilty.

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  4. I heard NPR interview Democrat Senator Tester about Epstein.   They let Tester focus on Acosta and dodge questions about Bill Clinton.   For every mention of Clinton, they made sure to mention Donald Trump.

    It is clear that the Democrat-Media Combine is going to try to attack Acosta and focus on that as much as possible, in order to protect Bill Clinton and other associates of Epstein.

    I heard American Family Radio report that on Tuesday morning, the bio of Epstein at Wikipedia was edited to delete passages about Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey.

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  5. Yeah, where does Epstein’s $$$$$ Come from?  I read that he isn’t professionally known to anybody on Wall Street.  Now he’s under indictment, prosecutors can get any info they want:  let’s see his  tax returns!

    And in this #metoo era, why haven’t any of the girls involved, who must be all grown up now, cashed in on their experiences by writing tell-alls?  Who were they? “Some as young as 14!”  we always read, but  were most of them that young?   Or were most of them 18+?  If so, he’s more like Hugh Hefner.

    The only possible explanation is that he is able to pay more for silence than the girls/parents and others in the know, like his pilot, could get from talking. (This has been going on for 2+ decades: think how many people this must be by now…)

    And pay and pay and pay,  and still buy an island?  Dat ain’t accumulated wealth, dat’s income! 

    What if some foreign govt is supplying him with an income stream, in order to provide itself with blackmail materials?  If so, that govt seems a tad outta touch and old-fashioned; in our country “sex scandals” never really hurt the John that much.  Bill’s popularity soared after we found out he was getting sucked off under the Resolute desk.

    Nah, it’s gonna be all for nothing unless they can really develop the pedophilia angle.  That’s the kill shot, from right or left, gay or straight (witness Milo, witness the priest-abuse scandal.)

    For a while after Weinstein, it looked like the “all women are children” meme was gonna prevail. Thank you, Christine Blasey Ford and Michael Avenatti! We just hadda  laugh at the middle-aged Ford’s Little BoPeep act, and the serpentine Swetnik was the last straw.   I’m hoping it has dawned on Young American women that  casting themselves as helpless,  witless, thralls  in the context of any and all sexual encounters is, in the long run, not a good look. 

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  6. We used to be friends with a couple…older than we.  We used to go to movies, they are filmmakers.  At one point he said, “What man doesn’t like a 16-year-old girl?”  There are, apparently, plenty of men who agree with the sentiment.  That remark was the beginning of the end of our friendship. 

    I also am not so sure it was Epstein’s wealth that kept people at bay.  Recall Birmingham’s grooming gangs.  Plenty of people from all areas of life looked the other way for years.

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  7. 9thDistrictNeighbor:
    We used to be friends with a couple…older than we.  We used to go to movies, they are filmmakers.  At one point he said, “What man doesn’t like a 16-year-old girl?”  There are, apparently, plenty of men who agree with the sentiment.  That remark was the beginning of the end of our friendship. 

    I also am not so sure it was Epstein’s wealth that kept people at bay.  Recall Birmingham’s grooming gangs.  Plenty of people from all areas of life looked the other way for years.

    I think you mean Rotherham.

    The people who looked the other way in Rotherham were mostly police, social workers and healthcare workers.   All of them work for big government bureaucracies with draconian punishment in wait for anyone who violated the multi-culti line.

    I think the Epstein girls were mostly 18 or could pass for 18, so plausible deniability all around.

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  8. 9thDistrictNeighbor:
    We used to be friends with a couple…older than we.  We used to go to movies, they are filmmakers.  At one point he said, “What man doesn’t like a 16-year-old girl?”  There are, apparently, plenty of men who agree with the sentiment.  That remark was the beginning of the end of our friendship. 

    I also am not so sure it was Epstein’s wealth that kept people at bay.  Recall Birmingham’s grooming gangs.  Plenty of people from all areas of life looked the other way for years.

    It bothers me that good people look the other way.

    I am not trying to blame the victim but were these girls not aware the strangeness of a middle age guy wanting massages from a young teen. Like Cosby spending time with women way younger than he was it wasn’t kosher. How naive is a young teen?

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  9. 10 Cents:
    How naive is a young teen?

    I know a number of girls around 16-20.  They are incredibly naive.  We are reaping what Clinton sowed…seemingly intelligent girl’s photos on social media dressing and acting like harlots presenting the expectation of hooking up. Because it’s just sex…appeal.

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  10. Burke once said: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”

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  11. I also worry about the anti-Semitic turn this whole thing is taking.  Why are EpSTEIN and WeinSTEIN so aggressively prosecuted and generally reviled, when Hugh Hefner is… a legend, a hero of sorts?

    I mean ok, If Epstein peddled kids, and Heff was involved with white adult women…but really it seems there is NOTHING to choose between WeinSTEIN and  Heff.  They both requested sexual favors in return for entry into a very lucrative career; the women in question didn’t HAVE to chose those jobs.  They aren’t like guys who take advantage of some poor female grunt at their factory, who didn’t anticipate it when she got hired and  can’t quit  or even sue due to financial pressure.  The women involved, (and their parents) after all, came to WeinSTEIN and Hefner with their eyes wide open, they were willing to sexually interact with those guys in exchange for a movie rôle, a shot at the Playboy centerfold.  Yet WeinSTEIN is a “Jew-perv” and Heff’s tombstone is festooned with lipstick kisses….

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  12. Hypatia:
    but really it seems there is NOTHING to choose between WeinSTEIN and  Heff.

    I concur; the only people who gave these pervs power, however, were adult women. I used to socialize with my cousin and her husband in NYC who took over the Lee Strasburg school of acting (he as a director and she as an acting coach) so I was exposed to quite a few dilettantes in “the theatrah.”

    If it hadn’t been my favorite cousin, I assure you I wouldn’t have gone near their company of peers. The fragile egos, the insecurities, and the narcissism were unusual and they were not knowledgeable about anything outside their field of work (which explains the absurdity of their political beliefs).

    Epstein is another case altogether.

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  13. Yeah and I’ll go a step further:  I don’t have a problem with Weinstein and Heff.  It seems to me all the sex was consensual.  People may have different motives for consenting to sex.  But unless that motive for screwing was to avoid death or harm or Maybe penury, it doesn’t change the act into rape.  (Although I the latter case it usually violates the various  workplace statutes).At least traditionally it doesn’t, and it shouldn’t, IMHO.

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  14. Heff was lucky enough to die before #MeToo, so dodged a bullet. Also, Heff is no legend. There are people who claim to have evidence of underage girls around Heff as well, but like I said, he died before this stuff came out. It may come out in due time.

    Also, the pedophilia issue in Hollywood hasn’t been exposed yet either. Weinstein and now Epstein are just the tip of the iceberg for bigger things, that need to come out.

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  15. Gavin McInnes did a great video pointing out the, much lionized, groupie culture of the late 60’s and 70’s, was really closer to pedophilia. Many of those girls were young, like REALLY young, 13, 14 and were passed around by “legends” in Rock and no one seemed to care.

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  16. Mate De:
    Also, the pedophilia issue in Hollywood hasn’t been exposed yet either.

    True that. One of my favorite rockers Eric Clapton had a 14 yr. old girlfriend at one point in his career. Apparently, it was the ultimate status symbol.

    Now I’m going to place some further blame on parents!

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  17. EThompson:

    Mate De:
    Also, the pedophilia issue in Hollywood hasn’t been exposed yet either.

    True that. One of my favorite rockers Eric Clapton had a 14 yr. old girlfriend at one point in his career. Apparently, it was the ultimate status symbol.

    Now I’m going to place some further blame on parents!

    Oh yes. What is WRONG with these parents? Like the parents who let their kids have a sleepover a Michael Jackson’s house. WHAT?? What is wrong with these people?

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  18. Hypatia:
    I also worry about the anti-Semitic turn this whole thing is taking.  Why are EpSTEIN and WeinSTEIN so aggressively prosecuted and generally reviled, when Hugh Hefner is… a legend, a hero of sorts?

    I mean ok, If Epstein peddled kids, and Heff was involved with white adult women…but really it seems there is NOTHING to choose between WeinSTEIN and  Heff.  They both requested sexual favors in return for entry into a very lucrative career; the women in question didn’t HAVE to chose those jobs.  They aren’t like guys who take advantage of some poor female grunt at their factory, who didn’t anticipate it when she got hired and  can’t quit  or even sue due to financial pressure.  The women involved, (and their parents) after all, came to WeinSTEIN and Hefner with their eyes wide open, they were willing to sexually interact with those guys in exchange for a movie rôle, a shot at the Playboy centerfold.  Yet WeinSTEIN is a “Jew-perv” and Heff’s tombstone is festooned with lipstick kisses….

    The difference with Hefner and the others was Hefner’s openness. He was not hiding this. Sex was a primary not a secondary goal of his. That is a big difference. To use Clinton as an example, people thought the Oval Office was a place free of sex whereas the Playboy Mansion was not.

    Until you brought it up I didn’t think of Semitism in regard to this. Is talking about priest scandals anti-Catholic?

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  19. 10 Cents:
    Hefner’s openness

    Yeah,  Hefner’s brand was all about sex and porn.

    Weinstein was allegedly the corporate guy making movies.

    I think Weinstein got away with his shenanigans for so long because the movie business has always had predators like him involved.

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  20. Weinstein got away with it because the competition in Hollywood is fierce on a totally superficial level.

    I understand the intensity of competition but in the business world, you’re focused primarily on how you can achieve the bigger piece of the corporate budget and the more profitable bottom line.

    Those things are worth fighting for and you don’t have to sleep with the CEO to get ahead. Just make the damn donuts.

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  21. I10 Cents:

    Hypatia:
    I also worry about the anti-Semitic turn this whole thing is taking.  Why are EpSTEIN and WeinSTEIN so aggressively prosecuted and generally reviled, when Hugh Hefner is… a legend, a hero of sorts?

    I mean ok, If Epstein peddled kids, and Heff was involved with white adult women…but really it seems there is NOTHING to choose between WeinSTEIN and  Heff.  They both requested sexual favors in return for entry into a very lucrative career; the women in question didn’t HAVE to chose those jobs.  They aren’t like guys who take advantage of some poor female grunt at their factory, who didn’t anticipate it when she got hired and  can’t quit  or even sue due to financial pressure.  The women involved, (and their parents) after all, came to WeinSTEIN and Hefner with their eyes wide open, they were willing to sexually interact with those guys in exchange for a movie rôle, a shot at the Playboy centerfold.  Yet WeinSTEIN is a “Jew-perv” and Heff’s tombstone is festooned with lipstick kisses….

    The difference with Hefner and the others was Hefner’s openness. He was not hiding this.

    Neither did WeinSTEIN.  There were jokes about it atbthe academy awards.  Everybody knew.  And also I think Hollywood WaS selling sex, just as much as Playboy.

    Sex was a primary not a secondary goal of his. That is a big difference. To use Clinton as an example, people thought the Oval Office was a place free of sex whereas the Playboy Mansion was not.

    Until you brought it up I didn’t think of Semitism in regard to this. Is talking about priest scandals anti-Catholic?

    i sure know a lot of Catholics who think so!

    to cast it as  pedophilia,  when it was almost all adolescent boys or young men who were involved, makes it even more repulsive. But also makes it a problem of perversion OTHER THaN homosexuality, which now we all must approve.

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