An Example of the Windows Vista UI Frustration

This poor guy (anonymous1996) asked some GREAT questions.  Great responses received — not so much.  I’ve fixed some of the typos/usage just for readability.

Also, I am not responsible for any flashback that certain Ratburghers may experience from the end of the thread.

Windows Vista User Interface

I would like someone to explain to me why Windows Vista does not allow you to customize anything any more.  Below are examples.

(1) This has to be more than 80% of my complaints about Vista.  There is the little up arrow to move up one folder at a time.  I know a lot of you are going to say you can use the back / forward icon but it’s just not the same.  If I copy and paste a path into a My Computer location bar the back icon will take me ALL the way back to My Computer default screen not to the folder one level up.  GIVE US BACK THE UP BUTTON (not a hard thing to do).

(2) Why does it take so long to open up My Computer?  Every time I click on it to start, it takes so long to display the drives.

(3) The search is now way more complicated than ever before.  All I want to do is search a particular folder by right clicking it and saying search.  If that is what I want why does it need to go though my documents / e-mail / pictures / music / other.  Just search.  It worked for years, and was much faster, much better.

(4) What is the deal with the way Vista does its IP addressing?  If you move a laptop from subnet to subnet you can end up with 20 or 30 connections.  It takes forever to try and figure out which LAN connection you are on and what your active IP address is.

(5) Is there a way to turn off Desktop sorting?  I have things setup just the way I like it, just to find that Vista has sorted the desktop *and the start menu* for me.  DO NOT think for me — give me an option to turn this stuff off.

(6) Give me a way to change the way the My Computer Address bar works.  Why is it that I need to look at the drive path broken up by folder levels?  Now I have to concentrate on where I am clicking instead of just clicking on the UP button or in one place and clicking delete.  Also the place I have to click before it turns into the regular path changes depending on how long the path I am looking at is.  Once again it would be good to have this option turned off.

(7) Give us a way to change the layout of our screens.  Why can we not add or remove items we do not use.  This has been the way for 12 years.

(8) The Aero interface is nice but this does me zero good in a work environment were I want to get as much performance from my machine as I can.  I pay users to work, not to watch pictures rolodex around on their screens.

Did Microsoft listen to anyone before releasing Vista, or even look at these own forums?  Because there are way too many people saying the exact same thing over and over again.

Last but not least, let’s say everything worked like it should — we should *still* have a way to put it back the way it was.  The option would make the transition easier and better for everyone.

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 9:43 PM

Anonymous1996

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1) It takes getting used to but the breadcrumb bar actually works pretty well as a replacement for up

2) No sign of that here. Driver issue maybe?

3) The idea is that it’s less complicated because you don’t have to remember which folder you put it in and it’s faster because it’s indexed. If you are meticulously tidy about organising stuff you may not see the advantage.

4) That’s IPv6 and it will eventually become a necessity to deal with the shortage of IPv4 network addresses available

7) Not sure I understand what you mean. What are you trying to rearrange?

8) Aero uses less resources than the classic Windows interface because it offloads much of the drawing work onto the graphics card rather than the CPU. If you don’t like it then you could always turn it off.

There is a way to put it back the way it was – reinstall Windows XP. The rest of us can happily move forward thanks.

Wednesday, April 4, 2007 3:16 PM

AndyCadley

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Andy you must be from Microsoft and that is why you are NOT listening and that is why 5 of my coworkers and I are starting to look at other options.  My company has already said that Vista will not be implemented any time soon.  The managers and upper management see the issues and understand the problems.

I have no problem moving forward — I have done it for 12 years and have been a big supporter of Microsoft and always defended it, but statements like yours are why we are looking at alternatives.

Listen to what the people are saying — work with them and solve their problems.  Don’t make it worse.

Wednesday, April 4, 2007 4:26 PM

Anonymous1996

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If I were from Microsoft I can assure you I’d make that most clear. Making a shift to Vista is by no means a cost-free transition, however in most circumstances making a jump to an entirely new platform has an exponentially higher TCO. There really is no compelling reason to rush to Vista if you are content with XP and it is currently satisfying your business needs.

Wednesday, April 4, 2007 9:58 PM

AndyCadley

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Time to close this thread

Thursday, April 5, 2007 5:04 PM

Ahmed Mahdy – MSP

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That’s right — the guy gets abused by a troll, then shut down by a moderator.  Sound familiar?

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7 thoughts on “An Example of the Windows Vista UI Frustration”

  1. John Walker:
    Not to mention partially transparent terminal windows!

    I changed to opaque terminal windows since the stuff in the background is distracting. But it was cool at first.

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  2. When they rolled out Windows 3.1 Bill Gates was bragging all over the world about how he only hired the best and the brightest for Microsoft.

    By 1996 we decided in my office that Windows 3.2 marked a pivot point for Microsoft.   After they launched Windows 3.3, all those best and brightest new hires were placed in Marketing and Legal and not in Programming or Product Development.   It has been downhill ever since, even as they grew into the dangerous behemoth that they are today.

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  3. John Walker:

    Damocles:
    Get a Mac!

    Not to mention partially transparent terminal windows!

    Hardware accelerated, color correct, and supported in the entire stack thanks to the screen licking beauty of the Quartz rendering engine.

    And complete with XQuartz for the true connoisseur!

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  4. Damocles:

    John Walker:

    Damocles:
    Get a Mac!

    Not to mention partially transparent terminal windows!

    Hardware accelerated, color correct, and supported in the entire stack thanks to the screen licking beauty of the Quartz rendering engine.

    And complete with XQuartz for the true connoisseur!

    So you like Apple’s window manager for BSD.

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