Out for Blood

Where is the outrage?   No, relax,  I don’t think we’ll hafta wait long.  I just heard the FBI is going to start taking DNA samples from asylum seekers, so they can see whether they get any matches later on in the criminal databases.  Come to think of it, I guess they don’t need to draw blood, just a cheek swab or a loose hair will do..

Cue the Ninth Circuit.  The US, has no right—no right, I say!!— to attempt any measure,  no matter how benign,  which might assist it in determining rational immigration policy.
This despite the fact that we now know that American citizens have no immunity from every specie 0f covert surveillance.

Anybody wanna lay odds about when the suit seeking injunction will be filed?

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20 thoughts on “Out for Blood”

  1. ctlaw:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7045351/amp/Rapid-DNA-testing-reveals-migrants-faked-family-relationship-kids.html

    Oh how DARE you, @ctlaw!  So what  if the kids aren’t really theirs?  They coulda  been , it could  be true!
    And if those unrelated li’l tykes are destined  for sex slavery, well, again, so what?  They’re no worse off than white-privileged babies in our country whose parents may be…(gasp!)  Trump supporters!

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  2. Ah, Hypatia, my humor got left in bed again this morning. I want blood drawn on every single person trying to get into the USA. No telling what they might find besides DNA.

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  3. Knowing that the FBI and all of law enforcement covet a database of all Americans’ bio-metric dada, I am not against any injunction preventing this. This is the forerunner. Keep in mind that the forerunner to what happened to Trump re FISA was first done to jihadists in the Middle East. There is always the boogie man trotted on stage before the people to induce them to give up their liberty.

    I know, this is falling on deaf ears but imagine Obama doing this same thing and how you would react.

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  4. Robert A. McReynolds:
    I know, this is falling on deaf ears but imagine Obama doing this same thing and how you would react.

    Shock. Sort of like seeing a hot chick and then finding out its a tranny.

    If the aliens do not want to give up their DNA, they can stay in their own countries.

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  5. When I came into Japan, the Japanese government wanted my fingerprints for my Alien registration card. Last time I came back from overseas they took an eye scan at the airport at immigration. They haven’t drawn blood yet.

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  6. ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I know, this is falling on deaf ears but imagine Obama doing this same thing and how you would react.

    Shock. Sort of like seeing a hot chick and then finding out its a tranny.

    If the aliens do not want to give up their DNA, they can stay in their own countries.

    I understand that but what happens when ICE or whomever picks up an actual citizen and takes their DNA before it is discovered that the person is USPERS?

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  7. 10 Cents:
    When I came into Japan, the Japanese government wanted my fingerprints for my Alien registration card. Last time I came back from overseas they took an eye scan at the airport at immigration. They haven’t drawn blood yet.

    Well they are using facial recognition here.

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  8. Robert A. McReynolds:

    ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I know, this is falling on deaf ears but imagine Obama doing this same thing and how you would react.

    Shock. Sort of like seeing a hot chick and then finding out its a tranny.

    If the aliens do not want to give up their DNA, they can stay in their own countries.

    I understand that but what happens when ICE or whomever picks up an actual citizen and takes their DNA before it is discovered that the person is USPERS?

    I am all in favor of a policy that lets the purported USPERS object until a hearing. If it is determined that the person is not a USPERS, there would be capital punishment.

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  9. ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:

    ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I know, this is falling on deaf ears but imagine Obama doing this same thing and how you would react.

    Shock. Sort of like seeing a hot chick and then finding out its a tranny.

    If the aliens do not want to give up their DNA, they can stay in their own countries.

    I understand that but what happens when ICE or whomever picks up an actual citizen and takes their DNA before it is discovered that the person is USPERS?

    I am all in favor of a policy that lets the purported USPERS object until a hearing. If it is determined that the person is not a USPERS, there would be capital punishment.

    So no Fourth Amd. in cases involving citizenship status inside the US?

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  10. Look I am all for measures to prevent illegals from waltzing right on in. I am also in favor of not giving up civil liberties for US citizens to do it, especially when I know damned well all levels of law enforcement want a bio-metric database with ALL US citizens.

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  11. Robert A. McReynolds:

    ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:

    ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I know, this is falling on deaf ears but imagine Obama doing this same thing and how you would react.

    Shock. Sort of like seeing a hot chick and then finding out its a tranny.

    If the aliens do not want to give up their DNA, they can stay in their own countries.

    I understand that but what happens when ICE or whomever picks up an actual citizen and takes their DNA before it is discovered that the person is USPERS?

    I am all in favor of a policy that lets the purported USPERS object until a hearing. If it is determined that the person is not a USPERS, there would be capital punishment.

    So no Fourth Amd. in cases involving citizenship status inside the US?

    Two problems:

    1) Not for foreigners.

    2) I assume your reference to “inside the US” merely means inside of the border checkpoints. If so, again we have the situation where an alien who bypasses border controls should be facing capital punishment.

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  12. ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:

    ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:

    ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I know, this is falling on deaf ears but imagine Obama doing this same thing and how you would react.

    Shock. Sort of like seeing a hot chick and then finding out its a tranny.

    If the aliens do not want to give up their DNA, they can stay in their own countries.

    I understand that but what happens when ICE or whomever picks up an actual citizen and takes their DNA before it is discovered that the person is USPERS?

    I am all in favor of a policy that lets the purported USPERS object until a hearing. If it is determined that the person is not a USPERS, there would be capital punishment.

    So no Fourth Amd. in cases involving citizenship status inside the US?

    Two problems:

    1) Not for foreigners.

    2) I assume your reference to “inside the US” merely means inside of the border checkpoints. If so, again we have the situation where an alien who bypasses border controls should be facing capital punishment.

    Recent amendments to immigration law have given Border Patrol ability to cover within 100 miles of the border. Some instances have seen them act well beyond that. This goes well beyond border check points, which have been designated Constitution Free Zones.

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  13. ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:

    ctlaw:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    https://nypost.com/2018/04/27/ice-wrongfully-detained-nearly-1500-americans-report/

    “According to the Times, the most widely mistaken groups of people are children of immigrants and citizens born outside the US.”

    Yes so brown people show us your papers. That’s a great policy for freedom.

    You are being disingenuous.

    Only slightly. Look if a Hispanic US citizen can be rounded up in Nebraska for nothing other than being brown skinned, then I think it is an appropriate comment. As per the quote you provided that seems to be the case in some capacity.

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