Time to Buycott Salvation Army

In a rather disheartening twist, Chick fil a just spit in the face of every customer they had supporting them through the LGBTQ nonsense.

It appears to me that instead of standing by their positions, they have decided to cut funding to one of the more honest charities (highest ratio of donations goes to charity) that specializes in homeless shelters, shelters for abused women and children, and drug addict rehabilitation.

Instead, they get to claim men are women. Woot.

Why does Chick fil a hate women?

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66 thoughts on “Time to Buycott Salvation Army”

  1. Stina:

    TempTime:
    Hi Stina.   I am totally lost by your post.

    Who are you upset with, Chick-fil-a or the Salvation Army?  Both?   I think the organizations (mentioned in a recent article I read) that Chick-Fil-A has chosen to support in the coming year are worthy of charitable contributions.

    In light of CFA’s no longer giving donations to SA, I recommend we band together like what was done for CFA and donate to SA.

    I would but they are a Godless Protestant charity. (I’m kidding.)

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  2. Robert A. McReynolds:

    Stina:

    TempTime:
    Hi Stina.   I am totally lost by your post.

    Who are you upset with, Chick-fil-a or the Salvation Army?  Both?   I think the organizations (mentioned in a recent article I read) that Chick-Fil-A has chosen to support in the coming year are worthy of charitable contributions.

    In light of CFA’s no longer giving donations to SA, I recommend we band together like what was done for CFA and donate to SA.

    I would but they are a Godless Protestant charity. (I’m kidding.)

    I would but I can’t find one with chicken sandwiches! Also kidding.

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  3. The refusal by some to see this for what it is—a betrayal to those who stood with CFA in pursuit of money—is indicative of why the Left has so much power today. A generation or two ago I am certain that people were trying to sound the alarm about the Left’s March and were told “you should really give it 48 hours before you sound that alarm” and “ this isn’t really as bad as you are making it out to be.” We in the liberty movement can’t even agree on what cultural defeats look like and yet somehow we are going to course correct this or rely on the hope that it will just turn itself around?

    If, in this time of open hostility to the Church and to any mention of Christ, we are not witnessing His second approach, I am afraid to see what the real period of tribulation will look like. There have been some Bible verses thrown around on this thread so I am going to do one of my own only paraphrased. How will we know His time is near? You will know by the signs He is revealing to you. Do not ignore the signs people and do not be led astray by calls of “level headedness.” Your eyes are not deceiving you.

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  4. Robert A. McReynolds:
    The refusal by some to see this for what it is—a betrayal to those who stood with CFA in pursuit of money—is indicative of why the Left has so much power today. A generation or two ago I am certain that people were trying to sound the alarm about the Left’s March and were told “you should really give it 48 hours before you sound that alarm” and “ this isn’t really as bad as you are making it out to be.” We in the liberty movement can’t even agree on what cultural defeats look like and yet somehow we are going to course correct this or rely on the hope that it will just turn itself around?

    If, in this time of open hostility to the Church and to any mention of Christ, we are not witnessing His second approach, I am afraid to see what the real period of tribulation will look like. There have been some Bible verses thrown around on this thread so I am going to do one of my own only paraphrased. How will we know His time is near? You will know by the signs He is revealing to you. Do not ignore the signs people and do not be led astray by calls of “level headedness.” Your eyes are not deceiving you.

    I am usually dismissive of anyone saying we are in the “end times”. People have been predicting the return on Christ for 2000 years.

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  5. More deeply, having met the owners, I don’t think they are busy selling out their core values. But I could be wrong. Even so, I like their Chicken Sandwiches. I am more of a burger guy, so they don’t get my business as much as some other places, when I eat fast food.

    I love Coke. They are doing the Sprite thing. Should I stop drinking Coke to protest? Should I spend time and energy everywhere, all the time, in every aspect of my life to make sure I am only spending money on the “Right” people? No way. Life is too damn short for that, and my energy can be better spent on my family.

    I am not going to be a part of cancel culture. I am not going disown people for being on the left. I have spent a lifetime working with people with different political beliefs. I will keep at it.

    Further, I don’t see what choice I have at the moment. If shooting breaks out, I’ll have to pick a side.

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  6. TempTime:
    Chick-Fil-A has given richly to Salvation Army and FCA in the past.  Do they have to give to the same charity every year?   Why not give to other worthy causes once in a while.

    I remember when the Komen Foundation tried to stop giving to Planned Parenthood.

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens:
    More deeply, having met the owners, I don’t think they are busy selling out their core values. But I could be wrong. Even so, I like their Chicken Sandwiches. I am more of a burger guy, so they don’t get my business as much as some other places, when I eat fast food.

    I love Coke. They are doing the Sprite thing. Should I stop drinking Coke to protest? Should I spend time and energy everywhere, all the time, in every aspect of my life to make sure I am only spending money on the “Right” people? No way. Life is too damn short for that, and my energy can be better spent on my family.

    I am not going to be a part of cancel culture. I am not going disown people for being on the left. I have spent a lifetime working with people with different political beliefs. I will keep at it.

    Further, I don’t see what choice I have at the moment. If shooting breaks out, I’ll have to pick a side.

    I think the only solution is to go back to basics. Support local small businesses. If your craving a burger maybe there is a smaller mom and pop type diner or a local chain that you can go to. Obviously, we are stuck supporting things we hate, because it seems every, single, corporation has been infected with this SJW garbage. It is so ubiquitous, but maybe focusing on your local community is a good first step.

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  8. Bryan G. Stephens:
    More deeply, having met the owners, I don’t think they are busy selling out their core values. But I could be wrong. Even so, I like their Chicken Sandwiches. I am more of a burger guy, so they don’t get my business as much as some other places, when I eat fast food.

    I love Coke. They are doing the Sprite thing. Should I stop drinking Coke to protest? Should I spend time and energy everywhere, all the time, in every aspect of my life to make sure I am only spending money on the “Right” people? No way. Life is too damn short for that, and my energy can be better spent on my family.

    Twenty years ago I stopped using Pepsi products, and then tried to eliminate subsidiaries of Pepsi Co. from my shopping.   It is nearly impossible, and requires care and extra shopping time to find alternatives.  Ten years ago I also tried to eliminate Coca-cola products.

    It makes for much healthier living, since 95 % of the products from Coca-cola and Pepsi Co. are items your doctor recommends against.   Lots of sugar and “empty calories.”  When you try to live without them, you recognize what a huge share of the shelf space these two consumer products giants command in your local grocery.

    Part of the reason to spend the time and effort is to model to the (now grown) kids that I am willing to make the effort to avoid businesses that are working hard for the Enemy.

    I am not going to be a part of cancel culture. I am not going disown people for being on the left. I have spent a lifetime working with people with different political beliefs. I will keep at it.

    I do not “disown” anyone, and I am not going to boycott Chick-fil-A; at least, not yet.   But I will cease seeking them out, as I have done for seven years, which is something I did because it is very very rare for a national business in America to take my side in the culture war.

    Making shopping decisions should not be confused with social interactions with colleagues and neighbors.

    Further, I don’t see what choice I have at the moment. If shooting breaks out, I’ll have to pick a side.

    You will have to pick a side.   But if lots of Americans take your approach, then shooting will never break out.  We will just quietly lose, and the victorious Leftists will round Christians up for the gulag at the final days before the advent of the new Great Depression.

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  9. I will be talking to the manager at my local Chik-fil-A.  To express my disappointment in their treatment of the SA in pursuit of appeasement.  {I live in the home county of the Cathy family.  My Chik-fil-A is the 2nd location established.}

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  10. Bryan G. Stephens:
    More deeply, having met the owners, I don’t think they are busy selling out their core values.

    Doesn’t look like they were the ones making that choice unless Cathy suddenly gets a greek spelling.

    Bryan G. Stephens:
    I love Coke. They are doing the Sprite thing. Should I stop drinking Coke to protest?

    I think the protestant church did a disservice to the Christian faith by minimizing the importance of fasting. To grow dependent on something or even to think we have an attachment to a thing has a chance to supercede our attachment to Christ. There’s a reason it’s hard for rich men to get to heaven – we are comfortable and it is hard to willingly choose discomfort in pursuit of Christ when you can afford nice things.

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  11. The management at Chick-fil-A seems to have forgot the first rule of negotiating with piranha …Don’t. They’re not there to negotiate, they’re there to eat your lunch, and I don’t mean chicken sandwiches. This write up in the NYT offers an anodyne quote from the company president, “As we go into new markets, we need to be clear about who we are,” he said. “There are lots of articles and newscasts about Chick-fil-A, and we thought we needed to be clear about our message.” I think Stina’s post and the responding comments here show that message is anything but clear.

    The Times goes on: But Chick-fil-A left open the possibility that it might resume donating to those organizations in the future. “No organization will be excluded from future consideration — faith based or non-faith based,” Mr. Tassopoulos said. Doubtless this statement was intended to pour oil on troubled waters. More likely, it chummed those waters because LGBTPDQ representatives quoted later in the article seem thoroughly unappeased. Chick-fil-A might think they’re making soothing noises with this vapid corporate speak but the piranha only hear a cow foundering in their end of the river. The company will win few friends among the woke with this approach and may well lose some of its previous supporters.

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  12. Apparently I both should be chastised for my lack of self denial as well as failed to be freaked out over things of which I have no control.

    I am pretty sure Jesus did not reach picking fights I can’t win. Might be wrong on that.

    I’ll take serenity for 1,000,000 Alex. I am done getting worked up over the End Of The Republic. Things will be what they will be.

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  13. Bryan G. Stephens:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    The refusal by some to see this for what it is—a betrayal to those who stood with CFA in pursuit of money—is indicative of why the Left has so much power today. A generation or two ago I am certain that people were trying to sound the alarm about the Left’s March and were told “you should really give it 48 hours before you sound that alarm” and “ this isn’t really as bad as you are making it out to be.” We in the liberty movement can’t even agree on what cultural defeats look like and yet somehow we are going to course correct this or rely on the hope that it will just turn itself around?

    If, in this time of open hostility to the Church and to any mention of Christ, we are not witnessing His second approach, I am afraid to see what the real period of tribulation will look like. There have been some Bible verses thrown around on this thread so I am going to do one of my own only paraphrased. How will we know His time is near? You will know by the signs He is revealing to you. Do not ignore the signs people and do not be led astray by calls of “level headedness.” Your eyes are not deceiving you.

    I am usually dismissive of anyone saying we are in the “end times”. People have been predicting the return on Christ for 2000 years.

    Yeah given the track record I don’t blame you. That said, there are some things that cannot be explained any other way. This rapid destruction of anything traditional or anything defending tradition is one such thing. And no this isn’t the same as previous attacks on tradition from the past. Those attacks can be distinguished as at least being compatible with tradition. There literally is nothing compatible with people of a more traditional bent and those pushing a destructive and disfiguring lifestyle on society.

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  14. Mate De:

    Bryan G. Stephens:
    More deeply, having met the owners, I don’t think they are busy selling out their core values. But I could be wrong. Even so, I like their Chicken Sandwiches. I am more of a burger guy, so they don’t get my business as much as some other places, when I eat fast food.

    I love Coke. They are doing the Sprite thing. Should I stop drinking Coke to protest? Should I spend time and energy everywhere, all the time, in every aspect of my life to make sure I am only spending money on the “Right” people? No way. Life is too damn short for that, and my energy can be better spent on my family.

    I am not going to be a part of cancel culture. I am not going disown people for being on the left. I have spent a lifetime working with people with different political beliefs. I will keep at it.

    Further, I don’t see what choice I have at the moment. If shooting breaks out, I’ll have to pick a side.

    I think the only solution is to go back to basics. Support local small businesses. If your craving a burger maybe there is a smaller mom and pop type diner or a local chain that you can go to. Obviously, we are stuck supporting things we hate, because it seems every, single, corporation has been infected with this SJW garbage. It is so ubiquitous, but maybe focusing on your local community is a good first step.

    Think locally act locally. That is how I try to get my family to function. It might take longer to get that burger but it’s going to taste better.

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  15. Robert A. McReynolds:
    A generation or two ago I am certain that people were trying to sound the alarm about the Left’s March and were told “you should really give it 48 hours before you sound that alarm”

    No, because we weren’t running on Twitter-time back then. Note that I haven’t passed judgement on the actual issue (Feel free to open fire after 48 hours!), other than to decide that once again the world would be a better place if everyone followed the advice of Milton Friedman.

     

    and “ this isn’t really as bad as you are making it out to be.”

    We in the liberty movement can’t even agree on what cultural defeats look like and yet somehow we are going to course correct this or rely on the hope that it will just turn itself around?

    So what has the “liberty movement” done since yesterday? Unlaunched a volley of angry tweets and swapped out their I Love Chick-Fil-A signs with I Hate Chick-Fil-A signs?

    If, in this time of open hostility to the Church and to any mention of Christ, we are not witnessing His second approach, I am afraid to see what the real period of tribulation will look like.

    You should study more history.  There have been plenty of times where things were looking worse for Christians than they are now.  Speaking just for myself, I’m confident that the tribulation era will be much worse than pronouns and transgender makeup classes.

    You might enjoy this book…

    There have been some Bible verses thrown around on this thread so I am going to do one of my own only paraphrased.

    That would have been me.  You can thank my Berean Fundamentalist upbringing. As per Acts 17,

    10As soon as it was night, the believers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went to the Jewish synagogue. 11Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. 12As a result, many of them believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men.

    Note that nobility of character is not guaranteed!

    How will we know His time is near? You will know by the signs He is revealing to you. Do not ignore the signs people and do not be led astray by calls of “level headedness.” Your eyes are not deceiving you.

    Hmm, let’s get some advice from Matt. 24…

    42“Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43“But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.44“For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

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  16. Mate De:
    I think the only solution is to go back to basics. Support local small businesses. If your craving a burger maybe there is a smaller mom and pop type diner or a local chain that you can go to. Obviously, we are stuck supporting things we hate, because it seems every, single, corporation has been infected with this SJW garbage. It is so ubiquitous, but maybe focusing on your local community is a good first step.

    When in California, patronize Bake Sale Betty’s.  It’s a Chez Panisse inspired chicken breast wrapped in a torpedo roll with coleslaw.  As soon as they sell out of torpedo rolls they close for the day, usually around 1:30.

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  17. I am not certain how many Chick-fil-As are franchises, but the one near me is. It just opened a few weeks ago. I’ve gone a few times and it always makes me happy to do so. Now… I just feel kind of disappointed at the thought of going.

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  18. JJ:
    Now… I just feel kind of disappointed at the thought of going.

    Please don’t.   If it would make people feel better, I could share multiple scandal stories relating to financial fraud, sexual assault, stealing toys from children, etc. etc., involving Salvation Army, maybe even add a few involving challenges to accepted Christian doctrine.   Perhaps doing so would help to inject a little balance to stories of both SA and CFA?

    How quickly people have forgotten the thousands, millions that CFA has given to SA and other worthy causes in history of the company.   Could it be we only are as loyal as any company’s last 15 minutes in the social media’s colored spotlight, no matter how that spotlight deliberately distorts the facts?

    Seriously, We really don’t need to go all scorched earth just because one time some corporation did not do exactly as the SJWs andor the SJW-ContraCrews demanded.

    Let’s do something positive instead.  Make some lemonade out of the lemons.

    @MateDe has already given all of us a great solution:  Buy local.   No sad faces necessary.

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  19. TempTime:
    Seriously, We really don’t need to go all scorched earth just because one time some corporation did not do exactly as the SJWs andor the SJW-ContraCrews demanded.

    Scorched earth ?

    I don’t think anyone is suggesting a boycott, or vandalism, or even protests, against Chick-fil-A.

    We are simply expressing our disappointment.   I had enjoyed going to Chick-fil-A, even though I knew it would be noisy and crowded, because I was pleased to give my business and my support to one of the only national businesses on my side of the culture wars.

    I plan to take no particular action against Chick-fil-A.  But I will not be going out of my way to get to Chick-fil-A.   I won’t be giving Chick-fil-A gift certificates to nephews.  I will be sad every time I pass Chick-fil-A.

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  20. American Family Association is demanding that Chick-fil-A make a public statement that they do not believe that the Salvation Army, the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and the Paul Anderson Youth Home are hateful organizations, nor spreaders of hate, nor that they have “anti-LGBTQ policies,” nor that they are deserving of the “hate group” label.

    That is a very reasonable demand.   By their very public announcement that they will withhold support from SA, FCA and PAYH, their action could be will certainly be construed by Leftist media as concurrence with the lies of the SPLC, GLAAD, and the Human Rights Campaign.

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  21. MJBubba:
    Scorched earth ?

    Yeah, that was a little hyperbolic   :-).    But when I wrote those words they seemed to match the tone of the tweets I had been reading today.    Second thoughts?  The paint brush I used was a little broad as well.  Sorry, no diminishment (is this a word?) of  concerns intended.

    I just thought that if folks were reminded SA is not the picture of innocence and perfection either, it would neutralize some of the intensity of the negativity being sent into the social-cultural-space.

    In full disclosure, I don’t even eat at CFA.   I don’t even know if, where, there is a CFA in Miami Dade County.   That said, I do shop at Hobby Lobby   :-).   And, I do Buyco   boycott, frequently.   Can’t tell you last time a consumed a product produced by the Coca-cola or Pepsi companies, as well as several other companies.

    edit: sp error

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  22. MJBubba:
    American Family Association is demanding …

    Demanding?  Good for them.

    In my mind, it is a childish reaction for an entity (AFA) to demand that another entity (CFA) abide by the AFA’s charitable giving/religious beliefs in regard to commercial/secular matters.

    I suppose a simple, civil request from AFA would have been too much to hope for.

    I hope CFA ignores the demand, and AFA.   That is, until AFA chooses to end its apparent tantrum and engage CFA with civility and respect.   I believe there really is a workable solution available but it begins with an honest effort to communicate politely.

     

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  23. TempTime:
    I just thought that if folks were reminded SA is not the picture of innocence and perfection either, it would neutralize some of the intensity of the negativity being sent into the social-cultural-space.

    I am aware of the Salvation Army and some of their shortcomings.  But I have also seen them in action, and I have a pretty high regard for Salvation Army.

    And, even if you wanted to focus on their scandals and shortcomings, you have to admit that the lies, smears and insults hurled at Salvation Army by the Left and the LGBTQQ activists are completely undeserved.

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