Happy Belated Pearl Harbor Day: In Defense of Simon Templar

Simon Templar has created a new blog https://inuinoueritas.home.blog/. If you are wondering who Simon Templar is, I urge you to check out his blog: he is one of the best conservative writers around, and if you don’t know who he is, you should.
There are some who might prefer it if you didn’t know who Simon Templar is; as you will probably soon learn, he is a bit infamous and has a reputation that precedes him. 2019 marked the year that Simon was kicked off of both this site and the legacy site. If you are wondering why one of the best conservative writers around was kicked off of two conservative sites, it’s probably because he angered the people in charge, and he also angered some people who weren’t in charge. I played a role in that. This post is an attempt to make amends to Simon, whom I have wronged, and it is also an attempt to restore his reputation, which I played a role in damaging.

For a number of years, Simon Templar was one of the most loved writers on the legacy site; but somewhere along the line, something changed. Now, among those who know who he is, it appears that only a handful are willing to defend him. An observer who knows nothing about the situation might assume that where there is smoke there must be fire, and that if so many are rushing to condemn him and so few are willing to defend him, then he must be guilty of something. It’s understandable that some might think that way-it is human nature to think that way. I don’t need to tell anyone that it isn’t conservative to think that way, but humans being human, none of us ever totally live up to the principles we espouse. I certainly haven’t.

History books are filled with tragic examples of the majority being wrong: one of the things-one of the main things-that conservatives are supposed to stand against is the kind of mob hysteria which has led to things like the Salem Witch Trials. But conservatives are human just like everybody else, and we are also prone to mob behavior. The whole situation with Simon Templar is a case study in mob behavior, and I am by no means innocent in all of this.
A little over a year ago, Simon wrote a post on Ratburger titled “Fantastic Fans”, in which he relayed that a woman who commented regularly on his posts was harassing him. I was a woman who commented regularly on his posts: I knew that I wasn’t harassing him, and I found it impossible to believe that anyone else was harassing him either. I wrote to Simon and asked him what was going on; he didn’t respond, and when he didn’t respond, I jumped to the conclusion that he was making it all up: that in itself would have been bad enough, but I took it a step further and told a few other people through private message that I believed Simon was making it all up. One of the people I corresponded with over this issue was an administrator of this site.
In those private messages, I made some pretty serious accusations against Simon: accusations which were a figment of my imagination, and which were based on the flimsiest evidence. Basically, I witnessed Simon becoming a little bit irritated with another member: I took that, combined with the fact that I believed that the Fantastic Fans post was made up, and accused Simon of being someone who turned on his friends for no discernible reason. At the time I made that accusation, I really believed what I was saying, but that doesn’t make it right. I also told the administrator of this site about one instance in which Simon had become a little bit irritated with said administrator on a thread that the administrator wasn’t on. I sited that as further proof of the wild accusations I was making. The administrator didn’t really say anything in response: he basically just said, in a nice way, that he was sorry that I was so upset and he left it at that.
Within a few days, I had cooled down, was wrapped up in the people and events of my offline life, and had stopped worrying about it. Within a few weeks, I had pretty much taken the position that I wish I had taken from the start: that position being, I had no idea what was going on, and that I should probably just reserve judgement. About a month later, Simon Templar responded to my message; he said that the reason it had taken so long for him to respond was because he was offline traveling. He apologized, and offered to make amends in whatever way I thought would be helpful. I told him that wouldn’t be necessary; a month later, I was long over it and as far as I was concerned, it was ancient history. At that time, I told Simon that I had written to a few people criticizing him, and apologized. After that, we didn’t speak about it further for a very long time. I wasn’t  curious to find out who the fantastic fan was: I never asked Simon about that, and he never told me. We never spoke about the fantastic fan in any way: I figured that it was none of my business, and besides that, I was very wrapped up in my offline life and felt that I had more important things to think about.
I am so embarrassed by the way that I handled all of this: I wish so much that I had just kept my mouth shut and reserved judgement. If I was the only person who had wronged Simon in this way, I probably wouldn’t be writing this post, but unfortunately, I am not the only one.
A few months later, on Ratburger, a rather large group of members launched a group attack on Simon that seemed to come out of nowhere. I don’t remember every detail, or the name of every post involved. It occurred over the course of several posts, but it started on one of my posts. In this post, I stated that it isn’t always a bad thing for men to cry. Simon commented, saying that he had cried at the funeral of his best friend and his best friend’s younger sister, who were both killed in a plane crash. Another member viciously attacked him for this.
From that moment, the attacks never stopped. I can’t remember all of them, but at various times, Simon was accused of being a rapist, a sex trafficker, and a Nazi. It goes without saying that there was no evidence to support these charges, but if enough people are falsely accusing you, evidence ceases to matter.
As someone who is not innocent in this regard, I am in no position to harshly judge those who get carried away with emotion, but lets be clear: when someone is accused of rape, sex trafficking, and Naziism, and there is no evidence to support the charges, then somebody has become carried away with emotion. The treatment Simon has received in certain corners of the conservative blogosphere is essentially a two minute hate, except that it has gone on way longer than two minutes. This is how things like the Salem Witch Trials happen.
I am not the only one who owes Simon Templar an apology.
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125 thoughts on “Happy Belated Pearl Harbor Day: In Defense of Simon Templar”

  1. Judy Campbell:

    In your opinion is it ever appropriate for a man to cry at his best friends’ funerals?

    ST:
    What if they are also burying your best friend’s younger sister (~20 years of age at the time of her death) at the funeral?  Would that that influence your thinking on this matter or are you laconic tough?

    ST:
    Or for the Josey Wales types out there in Ratburgerville, try visiting a military burn ward like the one in San Antonio, TX after a horrendous battle.

    ProTip:  You may shed a tear or two.  Just sayen’

    Let’s reset on this.  I did not, in the other thread, say that it was inappropriate to cry in any of these situations.  It was inappropriate (IMHO — your standards are up to you) to drag that stuff in through a narrow aperture, upset the womenfolk, and then shrug like it was nothing.  It stank of scoring cheap internet sympathy points off of your dead friends.  But they’re your friends — you treat them as you wish.

    That post wasn’t about you, and neither is this one.  I just responded to your appalling comments.  There was a discussion about emotional displays before you joined it, and there will be one after you leave.  Just so you don’t feel obliged to keep the lights on.

    At this point in time your opinion on any subject means almost zero to me.

    Then I expect to see a reduction in the volume of your comments about it.

    LIKE0

    The above exchange is comment #56 on the Stoics thread; another post about men crying is referenced in that thread. Does anyone know the post that is being referred to? (The other person in the exchange with ST is Haakon Dahl)

    The Stoics post seems to have been written in response to another post on the same subject, men crying.

    What is so great about anybody  crying?  The least favorite person in my life is always wanting everybody to cry, and the great coup is if a man  does it!  She thinks if people aren’t crying,they aren’t sincere.  She’s always twitting me for being so ‘tough”, my eyes are “like nails” she sez.  I asked her if she was under the mistaken impression that I don’t want  to be like that. (I do!)

    When I was in law school, the meme was that male lawyers were always afraid women lawyers would burst into tears if they treated  us like they did their male peers.  My female classmates and I would have done anything  before we’da given into tears !    Oh but thank you, #metoo: the stereotype of women’s extreme emotional sensitivity and instability is in full flower once more!

    Of course,  all humans will cry in extremis  of grief, pain, in situations like ST mentioned.  We wouldn’t be human if we didn’t.  But it is repulsive to sit around poking ourselves, just to see if we can do it!  Believe me, when the time for tears comes, everybody, man and woman, will know!

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  2. Hypatia, I don’t know if you read the comments on that thread, but I only referred to times of extreme grief, and Simon only referred to times of extreme grief.

    I am not a crier; no one I know in real life is a crier; the men aren’t criers, the women aren’t criers either, even in times of extreme grief, we usually don’t/can’t cry. But once in a while, we do, and that’s ok. That is all I was saying: that is all that Simon was saying, and apparently, we were saying something controversial.

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  3. I wish I could cry at will, like some people reportedly can.  That could be useful….as it is, as an actress manquée,  I can reproduce  the sound of sobbing quite convincingly, but not the actual tears.

    i was just airing  one of my pet personal peeves above.  I dont remember the thread in question.   Carry on, my warrior queen!

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  4. Judy Campbell:
    Hypatia, I don’t know if you read the comments on that thread, but I only referred to times of extreme grief, and Simon only referred to times of extreme grief.

    I am not a crier; no one I know in real life is a crier; the men aren’t criers, the women aren’t criers either, even in times of extreme grief, we usually don’t/can’t cry. But once in a while, we do, and that’s ok. That is all I was saying: that is all that Simon was saying, and apparently, we were saying something controversial.

    Actually, I rarely cry due from grief because my body is usually numb. I do cry and often throw a good ole fashioned temper tantrum out of frustration for all the unnecessarily stupid things that occur and place impediments in my way.

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  5. Judy Campbell:
    Hypatia, I don’t know if you read the comments on that thread, but I only referred to times of extreme grief, and Simon only referred to times of extreme grief.

    I am not a crier; no one I know in real life is a crier; the men aren’t criers, the women aren’t criers either, even in times of extreme grief, we usually don’t/can’t cry. But once in a while, we do, and that’s ok. That is all I was saying: that is all that Simon was saying, and apparently, we were saying something controversial.

    You keep saying that.  Could you briefly summarize the point of the post I made, or the point I made to Simon on that thread?

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  6. Judy Campbell:
    The thread is linked to, people can read your comments, Simon’s comments, everyone’s comments and reach their own conclusions.

    Judy, I have read the thread and find it fairly mild to some of the usual conversations around here. I wish I were treated as nice as Simon was some days. I saw it more as two brother officer’s talking about war grief. I understand that is a very masculine viewpoint.

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  7. Judy Campbell:
    The thread is linked to, people can read your comments, Simon’s comments, everyone’s comments and reach their own conclusions.

    You continue to mis-characterize my post, which was just a PJW video on how in modern society, a bunch of whiny babies are breaking into tears about nonsensical things.  Right out of the gate, several comments, including yours are made which defend a man’s right to cry about huge and legit things.  Note that this was NOT WHAT I POSTED ABOUT.

    Then there’s the other issue there, which I have no desire to repeat — my opinion hasn’t changed, and ST is not here to argue.  You on the other hand have butted into an argument which is not about what you think (and repeatedly say) it is about.  If ST were here to argue, he would probably not take up the point that you have, because *that is not what we were talking about*.  I would appreciate it if you would just leave the topic alone.

    You are wrong about my post.  You are wrong about my comments (and I submit, about ST’s,  but that’s between you and him and has nothing to do with me).  You are wrong about what happened with ST in his subsequent dealing with me on the site, and from what I can gather, you are wrong about what actually led to his invitation out the door.

    I have actually written several responses to this whole steaming pile of — to this issue several times and have done my level best to keep my comments between the lines.  I have no desire to get unpleasant with you.  On the other hand, I have known too many meddlesome old women for me to assume that you have nothing but purity and truth as goals.  So perhaps you will pardon me if I verge at times into treating you like just another troll.

    Butt out.

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  8. Judy Campbell:
    People can read the thread and reach their own conclusions; they don’t need me or anyone else to explain it all for them.

    Then why did you write this post? It seems you were framing and explaining events. That is okay and I hope it is okay for others to give their opinions.

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  9. I’ll say it again: something is amiss. The linked post was not about how men are not permitted to cry, and nobody was viciously attacked in the comments. I also looked at the Youtube comments to see if there was any discussion there about the video being about men not being allowed to cry. There wasn’t. The video is about narcissism, BPD, toxic masculinity, and culturally induced emotional fragility.

    This is all so very strange and has a different character than what I normally see around here.

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  10. “Meddlesome old women”? LOL 🙂

    I will say it one more time: anyone can look at the thread and draw their own conclusions, and that is all that I am going to say about that. 🙂

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  11. This is a comment from the thread in the prior comment from Simon,

    I’m beginning to think that it is not enough for incels to wallow in their own insecurities. In order to have any shot at the womenfolk they de-platform the real men because, you know, women are attracted to us.

    Their participation on those blogs is not about discussing the topics of the day. No, they use the internet to build their own egos and mentally masturbate one another.

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  12. Seems weird to me that we were discouraged, even explicitly told, not to discuss R> , and our feelings about our treatment there,  on this site—and now we’re getting explicit crossover of text from ST’s blog?  Why reprint ET’s post and ST’s comment?

    I get real mad, real fast, sometimes, which is why I got banned from R>.  And I won’t say I’m never mean, but  the level of anger here has surprised me. JaC, you have a cooler head than mine!

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  13. Hypatia:
    Seems weird to me that we were discouraged, even explicitly told, not to discuss R> , and our feelings about our treatment there,  on this site—and now we’re getting explicit crossover of text from ST’s blog?  Why reprint ET’s post and ST’s comment?

    I get real mad, real fast, sometimes, which is why I got banned from R>.  And I won’t say I’m never mean, but  the level of anger here has surprised me. JaC, you have a cooler head than mine!

    She does indeed. She’s  a kick-ass girl.

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  14. JJ:
    I’ll say it again: something is amiss. The linked post was not about how men are not permitted to cry, and nobody was viciously attacked in the comments. I also looked at the Youtube comments to see if there was any discussion there about the video being about men not being allowed to cry. There wasn’t. The video is about narcissism, BPD, toxic masculinity, and culturally induced emotional fragility.

    This is all so very strange and has a different character than what I normally see around here.

    JJ, Imagine my confusion.  I am once again berated for what I did not say — the comments on my post MONTHS ago went immediately onto a different topic.  And it’s not like it’s a mystery.  As JC herself says — It’s Right There.

    With the exception of the final decision to un-invite ST from the site, all of the other offenses listed in this OP are either me alone or me considered part of a mob.  I am the one who took exception to some of his statements, and (as I see it) called him out on what are (as I see it) some mighty bad things.  Note I’m not trying to re-litigate anything — it’s all back there somewhere to be read, and at any rate, it’s over.

    So I disagree with the characterizations made.  ST wasn’t the victim of a witch-hunt to my knowledge,  He and I had a loud online argument, and in my opinion, he didn’t know when to shut up.  And I don’t mean in a “you’re not allowed to say that” kind of way, but in a “you’ll say something that will injure nobody but yourself” kind of way.  I speak from long experience in not knowing when to shut up, so it’s not like this is something unkind or insulting that I am saying now.

    Also, ST and I did argue, and it was uh, noticeable, and JC won’t let it go.  Suddenly, it’s on the front page here, with mis-characterizations etcetera.

    Hence my anger.  What the actual Heck?

    Hyp, you’ve known me for a little bit.  Do you think that JC is right about me?

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  15. We are almost 50 comments in and no one has denied or even addressed the accusations that were made against Simon: accusations of rape, sex trafficking and Naziism. Have you all decided to plead the 5th, lol?

    When I started this comment, I was going to say that I understand why some men hate Simon, but then I thought about it some more: I don’t understand why some men invest so much energy into being that hostile towards anyone, let alone some guy they only know over the internet. At the least, encouraging and humoring that kind of hatred reflects very badly on Ratburger, and it could very well leave the site open to a lawsuit. Have the administrators thought about this?

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  16. Judy Campbell:
    We are almost 50 comments in and no one has denied or even addressed the accusations that were made against Simon: accusations of rape, sex trafficking and Naziism. Have you all decided to plead the 5th, lol?

    When I started this comment, I was going to say that I understand why some men hate Simon, but then I thought about it some more: I don’t understand why some men invest so much energy into being that hostile towards anyone, let alone some guy they only know over the internet. At the least, encouraging and humoring that kind of hatred reflects very badly on Ratburger, and it could very well leave the site open to a lawsuit. Have the administrators thought about this?

    You go girl!

    I would only add that women have been treated just as disparagingly. I can’t recall the number of times I was referred to as “ignorant” by Ratburger members or as PT commented in such a gentlemanly manner, “I never read any of your comments at Ricochet but I can understand why you were banned.” That one was a true classic.

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  17. On this thread, I have been called a “meddlesome old woman”, LOL, but we are supposed to believe that no undue hostility was ever directed against Simon: yeah, right. 🙂

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