Happy Belated Pearl Harbor Day: In Defense of Simon Templar

Simon Templar has created a new blog https://inuinoueritas.home.blog/. If you are wondering who Simon Templar is, I urge you to check out his blog: he is one of the best conservative writers around, and if you don’t know who he is, you should.
There are some who might prefer it if you didn’t know who Simon Templar is; as you will probably soon learn, he is a bit infamous and has a reputation that precedes him. 2019 marked the year that Simon was kicked off of both this site and the legacy site. If you are wondering why one of the best conservative writers around was kicked off of two conservative sites, it’s probably because he angered the people in charge, and he also angered some people who weren’t in charge. I played a role in that. This post is an attempt to make amends to Simon, whom I have wronged, and it is also an attempt to restore his reputation, which I played a role in damaging.

For a number of years, Simon Templar was one of the most loved writers on the legacy site; but somewhere along the line, something changed. Now, among those who know who he is, it appears that only a handful are willing to defend him. An observer who knows nothing about the situation might assume that where there is smoke there must be fire, and that if so many are rushing to condemn him and so few are willing to defend him, then he must be guilty of something. It’s understandable that some might think that way-it is human nature to think that way. I don’t need to tell anyone that it isn’t conservative to think that way, but humans being human, none of us ever totally live up to the principles we espouse. I certainly haven’t.

History books are filled with tragic examples of the majority being wrong: one of the things-one of the main things-that conservatives are supposed to stand against is the kind of mob hysteria which has led to things like the Salem Witch Trials. But conservatives are human just like everybody else, and we are also prone to mob behavior. The whole situation with Simon Templar is a case study in mob behavior, and I am by no means innocent in all of this.
A little over a year ago, Simon wrote a post on Ratburger titled “Fantastic Fans”, in which he relayed that a woman who commented regularly on his posts was harassing him. I was a woman who commented regularly on his posts: I knew that I wasn’t harassing him, and I found it impossible to believe that anyone else was harassing him either. I wrote to Simon and asked him what was going on; he didn’t respond, and when he didn’t respond, I jumped to the conclusion that he was making it all up: that in itself would have been bad enough, but I took it a step further and told a few other people through private message that I believed Simon was making it all up. One of the people I corresponded with over this issue was an administrator of this site.
In those private messages, I made some pretty serious accusations against Simon: accusations which were a figment of my imagination, and which were based on the flimsiest evidence. Basically, I witnessed Simon becoming a little bit irritated with another member: I took that, combined with the fact that I believed that the Fantastic Fans post was made up, and accused Simon of being someone who turned on his friends for no discernible reason. At the time I made that accusation, I really believed what I was saying, but that doesn’t make it right. I also told the administrator of this site about one instance in which Simon had become a little bit irritated with said administrator on a thread that the administrator wasn’t on. I sited that as further proof of the wild accusations I was making. The administrator didn’t really say anything in response: he basically just said, in a nice way, that he was sorry that I was so upset and he left it at that.
Within a few days, I had cooled down, was wrapped up in the people and events of my offline life, and had stopped worrying about it. Within a few weeks, I had pretty much taken the position that I wish I had taken from the start: that position being, I had no idea what was going on, and that I should probably just reserve judgement. About a month later, Simon Templar responded to my message; he said that the reason it had taken so long for him to respond was because he was offline traveling. He apologized, and offered to make amends in whatever way I thought would be helpful. I told him that wouldn’t be necessary; a month later, I was long over it and as far as I was concerned, it was ancient history. At that time, I told Simon that I had written to a few people criticizing him, and apologized. After that, we didn’t speak about it further for a very long time. I wasn’t  curious to find out who the fantastic fan was: I never asked Simon about that, and he never told me. We never spoke about the fantastic fan in any way: I figured that it was none of my business, and besides that, I was very wrapped up in my offline life and felt that I had more important things to think about.
I am so embarrassed by the way that I handled all of this: I wish so much that I had just kept my mouth shut and reserved judgement. If I was the only person who had wronged Simon in this way, I probably wouldn’t be writing this post, but unfortunately, I am not the only one.
A few months later, on Ratburger, a rather large group of members launched a group attack on Simon that seemed to come out of nowhere. I don’t remember every detail, or the name of every post involved. It occurred over the course of several posts, but it started on one of my posts. In this post, I stated that it isn’t always a bad thing for men to cry. Simon commented, saying that he had cried at the funeral of his best friend and his best friend’s younger sister, who were both killed in a plane crash. Another member viciously attacked him for this.
From that moment, the attacks never stopped. I can’t remember all of them, but at various times, Simon was accused of being a rapist, a sex trafficker, and a Nazi. It goes without saying that there was no evidence to support these charges, but if enough people are falsely accusing you, evidence ceases to matter.
As someone who is not innocent in this regard, I am in no position to harshly judge those who get carried away with emotion, but lets be clear: when someone is accused of rape, sex trafficking, and Naziism, and there is no evidence to support the charges, then somebody has become carried away with emotion. The treatment Simon has received in certain corners of the conservative blogosphere is essentially a two minute hate, except that it has gone on way longer than two minutes. This is how things like the Salem Witch Trials happen.
I am not the only one who owes Simon Templar an apology.
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125 thoughts on “Happy Belated Pearl Harbor Day: In Defense of Simon Templar”

  1. Judy Campbell:
    We are almost 50 comments in and no one has denied or even addressed the accusations that were made against Simon: accusations of rape, sex trafficking and Naziism. Have you all decided to plead the 5th, lol?

    When I started this comment, I was going to say that I understand why some men hate Simon, but then I thought about it some more: I don’t understand why some men invest so much energy into being that hostile towards anyone, let alone some guy they only know over the internet. At the least, encouraging and humoring that kind of hatred reflects very badly on Ratburger, and it could very well leave the site open to a lawsuit. Have the administrators thought about this?

    Judy, if you would like for people to engage with your examples, perhaps it would not be inappropriate for you to produce links.  You gotta meet people halfway, especially when it’s your water you want them to carry.  I’m the one who said those things, and even I just can’t be bothered to go spelunking through old comment threads for this.

    I also know that in context, my remarks don’t seem like how you describe them.  Repeatedly.

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  2. Also, when I read the title of this thread, I thought there might be something about Pearl Harbor in it.  Silly me.   And I’ve never heard anybody wished a “Happy” Pearl Harbor Day, especially belatedly.

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  3. Judy, I’m not sure how many posts you want somebody like me to read in order to verify your claims. I read one of them, the you linked in #25, and responded at #38. I’m trying very hard to understand what happened, but it is growing quite taxing and it would be far easier if you provided direct quotes and links. I also was confused when Dime linked to ST’s blog and quoted from it. So it’s just weird from both sides at this point to me.

    Look, I remember ST from R, and fondly at that. He’s not here now and evidently he’s OK with that because he didn’t make changes that were asked of him to be made. I don’t think that’s unreasonable. It’s not my blog and I’m not the one shelling out $200/month to keep it running. I figure the admins can run the ship how they want to run it and their rules seem fair and reasonable to me. I have a strong presumption that the admins will be correct in most cases, so it’s going to take a lot to overcome that in my mind. So far, you haven’t made your case as far as I can tell. I’m willing to learn but not if I have to hunt around for random comments on posts that I’m just supposed to somehow find on my own.

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  4. Judy Campbell:
    We are almost 50 comments in and no one has denied or even addressed the accusations that were made against Simon: accusations of rape, sex trafficking and Naziism. Have you all decided to plead the 5th, lol?

    When I started this comment, I was going to say that I understand why some men hate Simon, but then I thought about it some more: I don’t understand why some men invest so much energy into being that hostile towards anyone, let alone some guy they only know over the internet. At the least, encouraging and humoring that kind of hatred reflects very badly on Ratburger, and it could very well leave the site open to a lawsuit. Have the administrators thought about this?

    Judy, if you think this is such a bad web site, why come on it? I wouldn’t go on a web site if I believed half of  the above accusations. You believe there are hatred and witch hunts here, right?  Please invest your time in more productive places.

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  5. I would gladly provide links, but as Dime mentioned earlier, most if not all of the posts in which the accusations against Simon were made have been deleted. So, the evidence has been destroyed, and now people are getting on my case for not providing evidence. It wasn’t my idea to delete those posts: I am not the one who destroyed the evidence.

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  6. Judy, this from this comment.

    I think the way to deal with someone with the avatar name “So I was bangen’ this Supreme Court Clerk from BKK, Thailand when all of a sudden…” or a person who put up a pornographic group, “Metta Tantric Therapy” or a person who puts up a bunch of unfocused comments is to realize they don’t want to be on a family friendly site.  Why would they? There are better places for that.

    We have had no contact from this person so I doubt they want clemency or to be reinstated.  Our e-mail address is on the site. He had a chance to make his case a while back and doubled down on strange unfocused comments.  The hope was over time changes would be made. They were made but in the opposite direction of this site.

    If I would have done the same things, I would hope the same thing would have happened to me.

    The reason Simon account was deleted because we had him changing his avatar name to crazy things such as

    “So I was bangen’ this Supreme Court Clerk from BKK, Thailand when all of a sudden…”

    not “ST” not “Simon Templar” but the above while he was on suspension. He also started the group “Metta Tantric Therapy” which John Walker told me was pornographic. This behavior is not normal and the easiest technical solution was to delete the account.

    I feel sorry for Simon and hope his site goes well.

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  7. https://inuinoueritas.home.blog/2019/04/16/tantric-metta-awakening/

    Above is a link to a post that Simon did on his own blog about Metta Tantric Therapy; it has nothing to do with pornography.

    Dime can you provide links which prove that what you are saying about Simon is true? 🙂

    We are now almost 60 comments in, and still no one even tries to deny that Simon was accused of rape, sex trafficking and Naziism on this site. I guess I was right: you all have decided to plead the 5th 🙂

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  8. Judy Campbell:
    https://inuinoueritas.home.blog/2019/04/16/tantric-metta-awakening/

    Above is a link to a post that Simon did on his own blog about Metta Tantric Therapy; it has nothing to do with pornography.

    Dime can you provide links which prove that what you are saying about Simon is true? 🙂

    We are now almost 60 comments in, and still no one even tries to deny that Simon was accused of rape, sex trafficking and Naziism on this site. I guess I was right: you all have decided to plead the 5th 🙂

    Think what you want — I am not interested in re-hashing what Simon said.  That would be a disservice to Simon.

    Nobody is “hiding evidence”.  I should know — I’m the one who responded to Simon’s own descriptions of activities and proposed activities in pretty harsh terms.  I am prepared to defend what I said in context — I see no reason to dredge up Simon’s words.  The laws of third-world countries are different from the laws in civilization.

    Let it go.

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  9. Judy Campbell:
    I would gladly provide links, but as Dime mentioned earlier, most if not all of the posts in which the accusations against Simon were made have been deleted. So, the evidence has been destroyed, and now people are getting on my case for not providing evidence. It wasn’t my idea to delete those posts: I am not the one who destroyed the evidence.

    You said at least twice on this comment thread that the links were there and anybody could read them. Now you’re saying the evidence was destroyed. Which is it?

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  10. Thanks for the likes but I deleted the comment. I don’t think it was helpful.

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  11. Judy Campbell:
    https://inuinoueritas.home.blog/2019/04/16/tantric-metta-awakening/

    Above is a link to a post that Simon did on his own blog about Metta Tantric Therapy; it has nothing to do with pornography.

    Dime can you provide links which prove that what you are saying about Simon is true? 🙂

    We are now almost 60 comments in, and still no one even tries to deny that Simon was accused of rape, sex trafficking and Naziism on this site. I guess I was right: you all have decided to plead the 5th 🙂

    This is a free site and I have taken more than enough time on this issue. I will not provide any more links. Like I wrote, if you think this is such a bad site and you can’t trust the people here please find a better place.

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  12. Hypatia:
    Seems weird to me that we were discouraged, even explicitly told, not to discuss R> , and our feelings about our treatment there,  on this site—and now we’re getting explicit crossover of text from ST’s blog?  Why reprint ET’s post and ST’s comment?

    I get real mad, real fast, sometimes, which is why I got banned from R>.  And I won’t say I’m never mean, but  the level of anger here has surprised me. JaC, you have a cooler head than mine!

    You came late to Ratburger, Hyp, so you didn’t see all the Ricochet posts. After a time it was decided it was not good for this site.

    The analogy is if Ricochet quoted Ratburger. There is nothing wrong with that. We often link and give quotes from other sites. I thought it was proper because it gave a real time reaction by Simon toward this site.

    Do you think it is wrong to quote other sites who reference this site? Do you think Simon’s site should get some special treatment compared to other sites?

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  13. Judy Campbell:
    On this thread, I have been called a “meddlesome old woman”, LOL, but we are supposed to believe that no undue hostility was ever directed against Simon: yeah, right. 🙂

    Jojo needs to respond but I took that comment to be about herself and others that would be meddlesome. Why do you think it was directed at you?

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  14. I read the whole Stoics thread. A lot of the comments were not really about the OP but many were. The first and only person to use the word Nazi was ST. He got “sideways” as was pointed out and he agreed. I can see how HD would get frustrated when he says something repeatedly, and is repeatedly ignored or has to constantly restate or clarify. He felt the need to do that about six times on that thread. And Judy, you misread HD twice on that thread.

    One of the things that really bugged me about the old debates on Ricochet is when people would try to “read into” me, to try and discern my thoughts and motives and ascribe to me what they thought was going on in me. They were always wrong. It’s called, playing the man, not the ball. I suppose it can happen inadvertently if somebody isn’t careful, but I know it also happens deliberately. Thankfully that doesn’t happen here hardly at all, for the most part. I would hate to see it start to happen more.

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  15. 10 Cents:

    Judy Campbell:
    On this thread, I have been called a “meddlesome old woman”, LOL, but we are supposed to believe that no undue hostility was ever directed against Simon: yeah, right. 🙂

    Jojo needs to respond but I took that comment to be about herself and others that would be meddlesome. Why do you think it was directed at you?

    I didn’t originate the phrase “meddlesome old women” – someone else used it and I was sticking up for all of us “meddlesome old women” !  I am not sure whom the originator of the phrase had in mind. Sorry for adding to the confusion.

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  16. Jojo:

    10 Cents:

    Judy Campbell:
    On this thread, I have been called a “meddlesome old woman”, LOL, but we are supposed to believe that no undue hostility was ever directed against Simon: yeah, right. 🙂

    Jojo needs to respond but I took that comment to be about herself and others that would be meddlesome. Why do you think it was directed at you?

    I didn’t originate the phrase “meddlesome old women” – someone else used it and I was sticking up for all of us “meddlesome old women” !  I am not sure whom the originator of the phrase had in mind. Sorry for adding to the confusion.

    Thank you, Jojo, I thought you were viciously attacking yourself.

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  17. Judy Campbell:
    I would gladly provide links, but as Dime mentioned earlier, most if not all of the posts in which the accusations against Simon were made have been deleted. So, the evidence has been destroyed, and now people are getting on my case for not providing evidence. It wasn’t my idea to delete those posts: I am not the one who destroyed the evidence.

    Your accusation that somebody “destroyed the evidence”, if based upon comments to this post, must be referring to 10 Cents’ comment #23, in which he stated that when, after repeated incidents of malicious behaviour damaging to the site and its users (as detailed in comment #56 supra and my comment #16 from 2019-04-06 on the  “A Quick Note” post), his account was deleted (as this was the only way to prevent defacement of the site as described in comment #23, linked previously), this, as WordPress standard behaviour, deleted all posts authored by that account, including all comments by others made on those posts, and all comments made by that account on other posts.  No other material, including posts by other authors or comments on other posts referring to the deleted account, was affected by these deletions.

    This site allows users to delete their own comments at any time, so if a user made a comment and subsequently deleted it, I cannot speak to their motives.  Deletion of posts (which would also result in the deletion of comments made by others) cannot be done directly by their authors, but must be done by requesting an administrator to delete the post.  I cannot recall this happening in relation to this matter (nor, to the best of my recollection, at all—I am certain I have never deleted an individual post by a current member for any reason at all).

    This isn’t the first time you have accused this site of hiding information.  You made a post on 2019-08-24 titled “Missing Posts” in which you said “All of my posts seem to have disappeared-there weren’t very many of them, but I am wondering where they have gone?”.  As I noted in my comment #11 on that post, you had confused “posts” with “comments” you had made on another post, “The Stoics”, which is still there, including your comments.

    The idea that administrators on this site are deleting posts and comments, suppressing information, or covertly modifying discussions is the purest fantasy.  Other than deleting the account of the user engaged in abuse mentioned above, there has been next to no intervention in discussions here, apart from occasionally editing expletives which aren’t appropriate in a family-friendly venue.

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  18. Judy, let me be clear: even though I haven’t found evidence of what you asserted in the OP, that doesn’t mean that the assertions are false. So don’t misunderstand me. So far, I am only saying that I haven’t been able to verify your assertions using the evidence provided.

    I’m not willing to do any more digging on this site about it. However, I would be happy to talk to you (and anybody else) about this on a Zoom video chat. I have a Zoom Pro account and it’s really great. Send me a PM if this interests you and we’ll make it happen. I want to hear the whole story.

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  19. Wow, you all have a lot to say, but over 70 comments in and still no one is denying or even addressing the fact that Simon was accused of rape, sex trafficking, and Naziism.

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  20. Judy Campbell:
    Wow, you all have a lot to say, but over 70 comments in and still no one is denying or even addressing the fact that Simon was accused of rape, sex trafficking, and Naziism.

    What do you want to happen here?  I was trying not to get sucked into drama, but here’s my recollection: Simon’s comments kept getting less and less comprehensible to me and I also saw some hostility toward him which did not seem totally warranted but nothing remotely like what you say.  Maybe it was there and I missed it. But suppose it was there…… if you are trying to force the culprits to apologize, that seems like a dead end. As far as I understand it’s bygone…..let it be bygone.

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  21. @JudithCampbell, I was not involved, or even aware of the originating events.  That said, your continuing focus on this matter did arouse my curiosity so i read the post here, and I also ventured over to the website you mentioned (someone provided a link) all in an effort to understand the situation.

    The result?   Now I am even more curious.   Is your persistent focus on inducing an apology from someone/anyone on this website in anyway an attempt to elicit a written admission of guilt?

    Reading all the comments over there,  I could not help but wonder if an effort to obtain said admission is in anyway related to the ongoing comments on the linked website regards:  obtaining attorneys, defamation and receiving compensation to replace a laptop that was broken in an angry outburst over being banned from websites.

    If it is:  tsk, tsk.

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