Peace At Any Price?

As we drive to the clay pigeon shooting range yesterday, my Beloved MD remarked, “All I know is, there has never before been a president who had such an effect on my personal life!” He meant, that we can’t talk freely to strangers is one thing, but Trump’s election has divided our family (and, I’m afraid he also meant, pretty much commandeered his wife’s mind and emotions…)

That last is not true, really, and you, O Ratty, can verify that by perusing the variety of subjects I’ve posted about here. (You know how spouses are, always pickin’ on sump’n!) No, Trump is not the only thing I care about!
But he’s right: I care more, and devote more energy, to all things Trump than I ever have to any president in our lifetimes.

And the same seems to be true of people on the Left. I have been waiting to see how they’re going to somehow tie the incursions of the Coronavirus to Trump’s China policy. (I know this will happen; you heard it here first!)

It’s not that my BMD disagrees with me politically. We are on the same page, totally.
But here’s the thing: he resents, and is becoming impatient with, the fact that politics has now become so universally intrusive. He’s right; this is like the Dreyfus affair in France, when any gathering might erupt into a brawl, because everybody in La Belle France had an opinion to which il or elle was passionately committed. “The stone’s in the midst of all”, as Yeats wrote. Hic sunt dracones.

He’s flirting with the idea of voting for someone, anyone, more anodyne: some president who would just recede into the background noise of our lives, somebody no one really cares about very much. We hated B. Hussein, yes—when we thought about it, which wasn’t constantly.

I’m confident of his vote come November, despite these musings. But they made me wonder: is “Trump fatigue” a real thing? And could it be the deciding factor for a not-inconsiderable number of “independent “ voters on Election Day?

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20 thoughts on “Peace At Any Price?”

  1. In 1920, Warren G. Harding ran on a platform of “return to normalcy” after the disruptions of World War I and the Progressive era.  He said,

    America’s present need is not heroics, but healing; not nostrums, but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration; not agitation, but adjustment; not surgery, but serenity; not the dramatic, but the dispassionate; not experiment, but equipoise; not submergence in internationality, but sustainment in triumphant nationality.

    Harding won 60.32% of the popular vote and 37 states—the entire country except the “solid South”.

    But the U.S. is a very different country from what it was in 1920.  Then, as long as there wasn’t a war on, most people could still largely ignore the federal government.  Today, the federal government has intruded into every aspect of life, public and private, and almost every one of the great divisive issues of the time is ultimately contested in Washington.  Without a devolution of authority from Washington to the states and people, I don’t see how you can return to this kind of normalcy.

    In his short-lived 2012 presidential campaign, Rick Perry promised, “I’ll work every day to try to make Washington, DC as inconsequential in your life as I can.”  Other than the similarly futile campaigns of Ron and Rand Paul, who is even talking about this today?

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  2. Hypatia:
    But here’s the thing: he resents, and is becoming impatient with, the fact that politics has now become so universally intrusive.

    This is not Trump’s fault.  It is not something new with President D.J. Trump.

    The Left ruined everything.  Media is trying to blame our current distress on Trump.  They seek to make him out to be the originator of much distress.

    Rather, President Trump has revealed to America just how deeply entrenched the Leftist rot is in Washington, in academia, in Media, in Big Tech and internationally.  We see glimpses of Leftist rot revealed when they howl and cry over statements by President Trump that should be considered mundane and commonsense.  And, our recognition of the extent of the rot has revealed to us just how precarious our position is; how narrowly we escaped an irreversible slide into the complete collapse of western civilization.

    The distress we experience now is not just quarreling over a boorish politician.  It is the clash of civilizations.  The Left want to destroy America and American values.  We want to preserve them.  Trump is our champion.  However flawed he may be, we desperately need to support him.  He draws their ire.

    Have you seen the internet meme, with Trump saying “they hate me because they hate you, and I am in their way” ?

    It was not Trump who put the government in every school bathroom, rather Trump pulled government out.

    It was not Trump who shipped American jobs to China, rather, Trump is pulling jobs back.

    It was not Trump who let ISIS conquer Iraq and Syria, rather, it was Trump who managed the downfall of ISIS.

    It was not Trump who weighed American business down with high taxes and bureaucratic encrustation, rather, it is Trump who sponsored tax reductions and paperwork reductions.

    They hate him because he is showing how American values lead to American greatness.  Since their aim is to destroy America, he has become the lightning rod.

    Big Media is doing every thing they can to make this all about Trump.

    No; it is about the soul of America and the rescue of western civilization.

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  3. MJBubba:
    The Left ruined everything.  Media is trying to blame our current distress on Trump.

    It occurs to me that this is their pattern.  Our modern political distress began in the 1960s, when the Democrat Party started kicking their conservatives out.   That prompted a massive realignment of the two parties around political ideologies left and right.   The Democrats were more successful than the Republicans because the Democrats went first.

    The big realignment started over 55 years ago.  But I have seen four or five articles about political polarization since the 2016 election, all by Leftists.  They blame Ronald Reagan and they blame Jerry Falwell.  They place the origins of the big realignment on the conservatives who were clearly reacting against something that had been going on in the Democrat Party for two previous decades by their time.

    Big Media are the enemy.   I like the label that Abraham Hamilton III socked on them:  “Talking Snake Media.”

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  4. He is right to bemoan the politicization of everything. I happen to think that on some level this is what the political, power elite want: for us the rabble to be arguing over bathrooms and other trivial things while they set the system up to benefit themselves, bankers, and war mongers. But whatever the reasons for the politicization of everything, it does have an eroding effect on people. After a while people just get worn out fighting the battles, especially when it seems as though the battle will never stop. (I blame this partially for homosexual marriage. People just got tired of fighting it.) I think it plays a role in why I am a secessionist: I’m just tired of fighting these people so I would rather go my own way and live my life. I do not give two movements if California wants to turn into some surreal dystopian state as long as it is contained there. I don’t care if New York wants to kill babies after a live birth as a result of a botched abortion. I’m never going to live there. They can live whatever insane lifestyle they want. I just ask I be afforded the opportunity to be left out of it. That is where the problem lies. They won’t let me be so I must fight. I would urge you make the same case to your counterpart.

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  5. John Walker:
    In 1920, Warren G, Harding ran on a platform of “return to normalcy” after the disruptions of World War I and the Progressive era.  He said,

    America’s present need is not heroics, but healing; not nostrums, but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration; not agitation, but adjustment; not surgery, but serenity; not the dramatic, but the dispassionate; not experiment, but equipoise; not submergence in internationality, but sustainment in triumphant nationality.

    Harding won 60.32% of the popular vote and 37 states—the entire country except the “solid South”.

    But the U.S. is a very different country from what it was in 1920.  Then, as long as there wasn’t a war on, most people could still largely ignore the federal government.  Today, the federal government has intruded into every aspect of life, public and private, and almost every one of the great divisive issues of the time is ultimately contested in Washington.  Without a devolution of authority from Washington to the states and people, I don’t see how you can return to this kind of normalcy.

    In his short-lived 2012 presidential campaign, Rick Perry promised, “I’ll work every day to try to make Washington, DC as inconsequential in your life as I can.”  Other than the similarly futile campaigns of Ron and Rand Paul, who is even talking about this today?

    Nobody  is talking about this”today” (except me!). But that’s part of it.  NeverTrumper GOPs  used to, and Dems used to, but NOW,,we’re waaaay past the point where they can afford to suggest that Trump is merely too provocative, too noisy, a stone in everybody’s shoe.  The “talkers”,  news commentators and columnists , now see and portray him as evil incarnate.    They don’t wanna say, get rid of him because he’s an irritation; they hafta say: get rid of him because he’s an existential threat!

    But I wrote this because my BMD cant be the only non-talking head who may, still, be thinking  this.

    okay,  it IS irritating.  I’m sure the oyster feels the same way about that little grain of sand that gets stuck in its tender parts.  But from  that irritant,  of course, the pearl of great price is born.

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  6. Hypatia:
    He’s flirting with the idea of voting for someone, anyone, more anodyne: some president who would just recede into the background noise of our lives, somebody no one really cares about very much. We hated B. Hussein, yes—when we thought about it, which wasn’t constantly.

    Which alternative? Creepy, senile Joe? Angry, reptilian Warren? Bill Weld? And somehow, life will be more pleasant?

    “Peace at any price” is a bit too Chamberlain for my taste.

    Hic sunt dracones indeed.

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  7. I think Doc is correct. The best way to combat this is to elect some one the elites will truly go bonkers over. I say make their heads explode like that clip John posted on his other thread from a couple of days ago.

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  8. Removing Trump will not quiet anything down. The media must be starved in order to return to anywhere near normal. You know how Bloomberg is spending millions or billions in his campaign?  Who gets all that money? Media, who run his commercials. The media is a ravenous, insatiable and ruinous beast. Its power thrives on controversy, so the more it is paid, the more chaos it will foment.

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  9. In the early part of the Obama administration when it seemed that changes were coming daily, an older sounding woman called in to the morning talk show (Chris Plante – WMAL) and said that as much as she liked listening to him, she wanted to be able to take a break.  “I just want my life back” was her final sentence.

    Its been nearly 10 years since then and I just want my life back!

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  10. Robert A. McReynolds:
    I think Doc is correct. The best way to combat this is to elect some one the elites will truly go bonkers over. I say make their heads explode like that clip John posted on his other thread from a couple of days ago.

    Michael Malice’s view is that all the exploding heads are a hopeful sign. According to him, corporate media are getting ever more desperate, which is causing them to lose public confidence, which makes them even more desperate, etc. in a death spiral. The latest example is that clip of Don Lemon and those two other guys mocking half of the country.

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  11. Trump is not the cause of the politicization of everything.  Trump is merely the body politic’s immune response to leftist/statist incursions on our lives.  Voting for someone more anodyne is an attempt to treat the symptom.  The fever needs to run its course.  Just not so hot as to kill the patient.

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  12. Phil Turmel:
    Trump is not the cause of the politicization of everything.  Trump is merely the body politic’s immune response to leftist/statist incursions on our lives.  Voting for someone more anodyne is an attempt to treat the symptom.  The fever needs to run its course.  Just not so hot as to kill the patient.

    Another Malice-ism is that this isn’t a Left/Right thing so much so as it is an elitist/outsider thing. I happen to agree with him. They don’t want Trump gone because they disagree with his policies. They want him gone because he is an outsider. To some extent the same is true of Tulsi and Bernie. They are viewed as outsiders by the power elite and must be kept from the levers of power in the government.

    Electing outsiders is I think the best path forward if nobody wishes to take my other path of dissolution and shifting the political power away from DC.

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  13. Regarding the corporate media, the Onion seems to have regained its satirical footing.

    Explaining that as president he would ensure his policies didn’t leave any Americans behind, Senator Bernie Sanders reportedly unveiled plans Wednesday for a job-training program that would provide meaningful work to low-skilled op-ed writers.

    Maybe there’s still hope for David French after all.

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  14. Robert A. McReynolds:

    Phil Turmel:
    Trump is not the cause of the politicization of everything.  Trump is merely the body politic’s immune response to leftist/statist incursions on our lives.  Voting for someone more anodyne is an attempt to treat the symptom.  The fever needs to run its course.  Just not so hot as to kill the patient.

    Another Malice-ism is that this isn’t a Left/Right thing so much so as it is an elitist/outsider thing. I happen to agree with him. They don’t want Trump gone because they disagree with his policies. They want him gone because he is an outsider. To some extent the same is true of Tulsi and Bernie. They are viewed as outsiders by the power elite and must be kept from the levers of power in the government.

    Electing outsiders is I think the best path forward if nobody wishes to take my other path of dissolution and shifting the political power away from DC.

    It is worth reading about Alger Hiss. It was all class warfare. The fact that he happened to be a Communist traitor wasn’t as important as he went to the right schools and spoke the right things.

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  15. drlorentz:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I think Doc is correct. The best way to combat this is to elect some one the elites will truly go bonkers over. I say make their heads explode like that clip John posted on his other thread from a couple of days ago.

    Michael Malice’s view is that all the exploding heads are a hopeful sign. According to him, corporate media are getting ever more desperate, which is causing them to lose public confidence, which makes them even more desperate, etc. in a death spiral. The latest example is that clip of Don Lemon and those two other guys mocking half of the country.

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  16. Robert A. McReynolds:
    Electing outsiders is I think the best path forward if nobody wishes to take my other path of dissolution and shifting the political power away from DC.

    Don’t disagree but we must be cognizant of who the “outsiders” truly are.

    It’s tricky; I wholeheartedly supported Mitt Romney in 2012 without a clue that he was an envious, egotistical man who was perfectly happy to accept Trump’s money and verbal endorsement in 2012 and then stab him in the back in 2016.

    Hey, I’m hardly naive about the nefarious political intricacies of D.C. but I will admit this one shocked and truly discouraged me.

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  17. Hypatia:
    He’s flirting with the idea of voting for someone, anyone, more anodyne: some president who would just recede into the background noise of our lives, somebody no one really cares about very much.

    No offense meant my dear Hyp, but this type of thinking is exactly what has put us on the verge of ruination to begin with so pls do not give up the good fight!

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  18. EThompson:
    It’s tricky; I wholeheartedly supported Mitt Romney in 2012 without a clue that he was an envious, egotistical man who was perfectly happy to accept Trump’s money and verbal endorsement in 2012 and then stab him in the back in 2016.

    I would not say Romney had me all enthusiastic but I did support him and voted for him in 2012. But I did not like it when he showed up in Utah and when I then did some research that showed me he did much lying and deception in earlier years regarding right to life issues, I judge this a much worse character than what I see in Donald Trump.

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  19. EThompson:
    It’s tricky; I wholeheartedly supported Mitt Romney in 2012 without a clue that he was an envious, egotistical man who was perfectly happy to accept Trump’s money and verbal endorsement in 2012 and then stab him in the back in 2016.

    Likewise, in all regards.  I went through a series of candidates for 2012 in the primary, and when Romney killed Newt 00 and Newt admitted he was dead — I was a hunnert percent on board with ROmney.  I was truly pained to see the four-years-too-late effort of what I thought was a decent man go down in flames to the unthinkable re-election of the Usurper.

    And then… and then…  What a turd Romney turned out to be.  I won’t say we dodged a bullet — we got shot up bad by Obama.  But Romney would have done damage his own, near as I can tell.

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