Bloomberg blue-collar outreach

Talking Snake Media is ignoring a video of Michael Bloomberg from 2016.   Here is the money quote:

“I could teach anybody, even people in this room so no offense intended, to be a farmer. It’s a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, add water, up comes the corn. You could learn that.”

You should watch the video.   Not only does he trash farming as not requiring much “gray matter,” but he also trashes blue-collar jobs in manufacturing.

This is so bad that the New York Times ran a piece wondering if he had lost his mind.

Bloomberg may not be the nominee.   His strategy, if he is not the nominee, is to run as an independent so that he will not be constrained by campaign finance rules as he continues to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on attack ads against President Trump.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel tried to rehabilitate Bloomberg’s quote:

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/02/17/bloomberg-video-appears-insult-farmers-but-full-context-deleted/4786501002/

The best place to go see this video is AgDaily.com.   Here is a quote from them:

Bloomberg’s remarks are resurfacing barely a month after he made a big deal about visiting a real Minnesota farm for the first time to learn about agriculture. It’s not hard to wonder why so many agricultural companies actively choose not to cite his mainstream Bloomberg News outlet for information.

Did Bloomberg belittle the knowledge and expertise of farmers?

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46 thoughts on “Bloomberg blue-collar outreach”

  1. EThompson:
    drlorentz:
    Robert A. McReynolds: What is it with people from New York City being so damned condescending toward people who are from areas that aren’t self absorbed and consumed with the pursuit of money? Bloomberg is just another example of the pomposity that makes me root for al Qa’ida whenever NYC is brought up.

    Sorry but that’s not the least bit funny even in your snarky world. I lived one block away from WT1 and would have lost my home, my cat, and possibly both my life and my husband’s life because we took the WTC subway to work everyday @ 9:00 a.m.

    Also, this disdain for money is naive, resentful and has bitter overtones to it. New Yorkers work hard for the donuts to be sure but they provide the best in the world: restaurants, stores, museums, symphonies, operas, theater, and an interesting and eclectic group of residents. I’m not rich enough to live there in the manner in which I would like to, but I wouldn’t have traded my 12 years there for anything and the group of people I met: sportswriters, stand-up comedians, hedge fund managers, struggling actors, cops, and even Marc Jacobs!

    Bloomberg is simply a bad person and I wouldn’t consider him representative of 8 million people in the least.

    I don’t have a disdain for money. I have a disdain for New Yorkers. I know a few and they are good people…and they live in Florida. Also I do draw distinctions between the city dwellers and the good country folk near the finger lakes.

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  2. EThompson:
    Is that all you got? Robert was given full credit for the comment at #20.

    Learn to read. I bolded it for your convenience.

    Yeah Doc. Don’t try to pry into the spotlight brought by my sharp wit. I stand by all my comments.

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  3. drlorentz:

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    I am going to give Bloomberg a pass on this. He was giving a speech and was imprecise with his language. It is true that in times past one good do jobs and be illiterate. In the Information Age that is not possible.

    Gee, I wonder what Victor Davis Hanson, a farmer, might have to say about this? Oh, no need to wonder.

    I give my opinion and you go out and find some guy on the Internet to contradict me. The guy looks like a raisin farmer to me. Fresno?

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  4. John Walker:

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    It is true that in times past one could do jobs and be illiterate. In the Information Age that is not possible.

    I would suggest that anybody who claims illiterates can’t write code spend a while looking at the WordPress source code.

    I am not claiming skill but literacy. It is hard to write without it.

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  5. 10 Cents:

    John Walker:

    10 Cents:
    It is true that in times past one could do jobs and be illiterate. In the Information Age that is not possible.

    I would suggest that anybody who claims illiterates can’t write code spend a while looking at the WordPress source code.

    I am not claiming skill but literacy. It is hard to write without it.

    Yeah, the thing is that Bloomberg never said anything about literacy; that’s a mischaracterization of his remarks. The quote in the OP, which is accurate, makes no mention of literacy. Bloomie was making a claim about skill and he was dead wrong about that, as VDH explained in detail.

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  6. Robert A. McReynolds:
    What is it with people from New York City being so damned condescending toward people who are from areas that aren’t self absorbed and consumed with the pursuit of money? Bloomberg is just another example of the pomposity that makes me root for al Qa’ida whenever NYC is brought up. What an idiot?

    As a born blue collar New Yorker  I find it interesting that POTUS can fill stadiums with us blue collar types while  being a NY native. It could be that NY also produces its share of jerks.

    As for rooting preferences, I prefer the NY side.

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  7. drlorentz:

    10 Cents:

    John Walker:

    10 Cents:
    It is true that in times past one could do jobs and be illiterate. In the Information Age that is not possible.

    I would suggest that anybody who claims illiterates can’t write code spend a while looking at the WordPress source code.

    I am not claiming skill but literacy. It is hard to write without it.

    Yeah, the thing is that Bloomberg never said anything about literacy; that’s a mischaracterization of his remarks. The quote in the OP, which is accurate, makes no mention of literacy. Bloomie was making a claim about skill and he was dead wrong about that, as VDH explained in detail.

    I think a fair reading of his remarks is emphasising the various revolutions in history. If one wants to see it differently to make a political point I think that is taking it out of context.

    It was a talk from a guy who runs a media company. If he ran an agricultural or industrial company he would have made different points.

    You are correct that he never mentioned literacy. I just assumed that in the Information Age reading the information and writing it was a given.

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  8. 10 Cents:

    drlorentz:

    10 Cents:

    John Walker:

    10 Cents:
    It is true that in times past one could do jobs and be illiterate. In the Information Age that is not possible.

    I would suggest that anybody who claims illiterates can’t write code spend a while looking at the WordPress source code.

    I am not claiming skill but literacy. It is hard to write without it.

    Yeah, the thing is that Bloomberg never said anything about literacy; that’s a mischaracterization of his remarks. The quote in the OP, which is accurate, makes no mention of literacy. Bloomie was making a claim about skill and he was dead wrong about that, as VDH explained in detail.

    I think a fair reading of his remarks is emphasising the various revolutions in history. If one wants to see it differently to make a political point I think that is taking it out of context.

    It was a talk from a guy who runs a media company. If he ran an agricultural or industrial company he would have made different points.

    You are correct that he never mentioned literacy. I just assumed that in the Information Age reading the information and writing it was a given.

    Let’s review. A “fair reading” of Bloomie’s remarks requires inserting concepts he never mentioned (literacy) but relying on the actual words he uttered is “taking it out of context.”

    Mkay.

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  9. Look, I’m a blue collar (former) New Yorker. There are a lot of really great people in NY. The problem is the rich elites and (I’m sorry but it’s true) the Sellout union workers, who vote their pension instead of the future of the state. Then bitch, when their kids move away cause the taxes are too high.

    Also if people hate NYer’s I kind of don’t blame them, especially when they come to NYC and see these ads.

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  10. drlorentz:

    10 Cents:

    drlorentz:

    10 Cents:

    John Walker:

    10 Cents:
    It is true that in times past one could do jobs and be illiterate. In the Information Age that is not possible.

    I would suggest that anybody who claims illiterates can’t write code spend a while looking at the WordPress source code.

    I am not claiming skill but literacy. It is hard to write without it.

    Yeah, the thing is that Bloomberg never said anything about literacy; that’s a mischaracterization of his remarks. The quote in the OP, which is accurate, makes no mention of literacy. Bloomie was making a claim about skill and he was dead wrong about that, as VDH explained in detail.

    I think a fair reading of his remarks is emphasising the various revolutions in history. If one wants to see it differently to make a political point I think that is taking it out of context.

    It was a talk from a guy who runs a media company. If he ran an agricultural or industrial company he would have made different points.

    You are correct that he never mentioned literacy. I just assumed that in the Information Age reading the information and writing it was a given.

    Let’s review. A “fair reading” of Bloomie’s remarks requires inserting concepts he never mentioned (literacy) but relying on the actual words he uttered is “taking it out of context.”

    Mkay.

    I also insert “wet” and “liquid” when someone talks about water.

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  11. TKC 1101:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    What is it with people from New York City being so damned condescending toward people who are from areas that aren’t self absorbed and consumed with the pursuit of money? Bloomberg is just another example of the pomposity that makes me root for al Qa’ida whenever NYC is brought up. What an idiot?

    As a born blue collar New Yorker  I find it interesting that POTUS can fill stadiums with us blue collar types while  being a NY native. It could be that NY also produces its share of jerks.

    As for rooting preferences, I prefer the NY side.

    “Outsiders” often forget there are five different boroughs and each one is as different as the next. Manhattan obviously gets all the attention but Queens and Staten Island are ripe pickins’ for the Donald. Brooklyn is a mixed bag of criminals (Bed-Stuy)and yuppies (Heights, Park Slope, Carroll Gardens)and da Bronx is … well, it’s a place I wouldn’t visit. (Riverdale used to be nice, though.)

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  12. 10 Cents:
    I also insert “wet” and “liquid” when someone talks about water.

    Interesting non sequitur!

    I thought of you today after listening to VDH’s most recent Classicist podcast. Professor Hanson reminded me that, not only did Bloomberg demean farmers, he also included machinists in his little disquisition.

    As physics graduate students, we were taught how to use machine tools: lathe, end mill, drill press, belt sander. The machinists treated us like the idiots we were, justifiably fearing we’d lose a finger or eye, or that we might damage an expensive tool. I also learned how to blow glass, how to leak-check vacuum systems, and the proper technique for soldering ICs onto PCBs.

    Unlike Mr. Bloomberg, I found out that each of these requires a significant amount of skill and experience. There was more to machining than, to quote the master machinist Bloomberg, “You put the piece of metal on the lathe, you turn the crank in the direction of the arrow, and you have a job.”

    Bloomberg has demonstrated his profound ignorance of farming and machining in a few sentences. Kudos to MiniMike for simultaneously achieving a high level of superciliousness and a lack of awareness of anything outside his narrow world, whilst employing so few words.

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  13. Mate De:
    Look, I’m a blue collar (former) New Yorker. There are a lot of really great people in NY. The problem is the rich elites and (I’m sorry but it’s true) the Sellout union workers, who vote their pension instead of the future of the state. Then bitch, when their kids move away cause the taxes are too high.

    Also if people hate NYer’s I kind of don’t blame them, especially when they come to NYC and see these ads.

    Aw c’mon, lighten up. New Yawkers are notoriously brash, bold, and arrogant but if you’re ever in serious trouble you’ll be glad to be living among them. See: 9/11. If that disaster had to happen, the jihadists chose the wrong place and time (Giuliani era) if they hoped to intimidate us.

    On a more lighthearted note, when I first arrived in NYC, a gay friend took one look at my wardrobe and said, “Honey… WE NEED TO GO SHOPPING. You’ll never make it in this town dressed like that.”

    That experience changed my life. 🙂

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  14. EThompson:

    Mate De:
    Look, I’m a blue collar (former) New Yorker. There are a lot of really great people in NY. The problem is the rich elites and (I’m sorry but it’s true) the Sellout union workers, who vote their pension instead of the future of the state. Then bitch, when their kids move away cause the taxes are too high.

    Also if people hate NYer’s I kind of don’t blame them, especially when they come to NYC and see these ads.

    Aw c’mon, lighten up. New Yawkers are notoriously brash, bold, and arrogant but if you’re ever in serious trouble you’ll be glad to be living among them. See: 9/11. If that disaster had to happen, the jihadists chose the wrong place and time (Giuliani era) if they hoped to intimidate us.

    On a more lighthearted note, when I first arrived in NYC, a gay friend took one look at my wardrobe and said, “Honey… WE NEED TO GO SHOPPING. You’ll never make it in this town dressed like that.”

    That experience changed my life. 🙂

    Believe you me, I am a New Yorker born and bred and several generations in. My grandparents were dyed in the wool New Yorkers. But New York is a corrupt place. Even good people will explain away corrupt behavior because everyone is on the take. I am related to and know a lot of good guys in trades unions, that blatantly work the system and pilfer items when they can. It is indicative of the culture, so stealing is OK because it is stealing from the job site. Even though that stealing increases the cost of building anything in NY.  Corruption is imbedded in the culture of New York.

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  15. drlorentz:

    10 Cents:
    I am going to give Bloomberg a pass on this. He was giving a speech and was imprecise with his language. It is true that in times past one good do jobs and be illiterate. In the Information Age that is not possible.

    He doesn’t deserve it. Bloomberg is an out-of-touch elitist who has no idea what farming entails ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H entrails.

    Fixed that for ya.

    Learn to code, Mike.

    Bwahaha!

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  16. I take the “Live in America” sign in the same vein as I take RMcR’s “root for AQ” remark.  Like the movie Team America, these are both self-aware squatzenhumor.  Don’t bother looking that up — I just invented term.  I can’t define it, but I know it when I see it.

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  17. EThompson:
    Sorry you feel that way MD. 🙁

    Don’t paint the city with so wide a brush.

    So, did you find yourself hiding the fact that you got your degree in the South?

    New Yorkers have a firm reputation for arrogance.   They earned it.

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  18. MJBubba:

    EThompson:
    Sorry you feel that way MD. 🙁

    Don’t paint the city with so wide a brush.

    So, did you find yourself hiding the fact that you got your degree in the South?

    New Yorkers have a firm reputation for arrogance.   They earned it.

    There were quite a few Southerners in NYC; I lived for awhile with three of my classmates. Besides, being from the Midwest was even less “chic.” The city is so diverse it doesn’t really pick on any particular demographic (other than citizens of the other four boroughs whom they lovingly refer to as the “Bridge and Tunnel” crowd.)  🙂

    They really have earned a reputation beyond what they deserve. What is often taken for rudeness is briskness because everybody is always late and in a hurry!

    You sound as if you’ve lived there at one time. If so, would certainly be interested in hearing about your experiences.

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