Unfortunately…

… the next election may depend upon nothing but this virus.

Trump will be accused not only of generating the thing by the “This is Gaia defending herself from the human cancer” variety of fruitcakes (who all vote Bernie), but also of some combination of incompetence and malice for “playing it down”.

The 2020 election will be held either in a time of bread lines and death, or in a time of investigations in the wake of a “preventable disaster”, wherein suddenly every Democrat is an expert on everything and the media sings the song.

On the whole, it probably makes very little difference what Trump says, as the American public will only tolerate so much of quarantining, and can rarely be coerced into even basic hygiene.  Most people live hand-to-mouth despite fat bank accounts because they trust the infrastructure not only with their convenience, but with their lives.  So even if Trump should hop atop the podium and and tell people gravely to prepare, and to bunker down — we wouldn’t.  There’s no benefit to being frank with most people, and massive risk.  So happy-talk is probably the right answer no matter how dire the situation could be.

Well, if you wanted to be glum today, think about this.

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37 thoughts on “Unfortunately…”

  1. Full disclosure: I am infuriated at the careless and evil strategy of the Chinese. I want Trump to cut off all flights from Asia and even Italy (too many Japanese tourists) and move money around in the national budget to help American factories get re-started to replace anything we have stupidly relied upon Communists to produce.

    We can do it better and we’ll learn how to make our factories more cost efficient. We used to know how to do this. Anyone remember Henry Ford who invented the assembly line? One Model T used to take 12 hours to produce; after the assembly line innovation, Ford made 12 cars in one hour.

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  2. Haakon Dahl:
    The 2020 election will be held either in a time of bread lines and death, or in a time of investigations in the wake of a “preventable disaster”, wherein suddenly every Democrat is an expert on everything and the media sings the song.

    Talking Snake Media will do everything in their power to make Americans think bread lines and massive death are imminent and can only be avoided by voting for Communism.   It worked for Hugo Chavez.

    Big Tech will also do everything in their power, which is very scary because their control over information flow in America is even greater than is that of Talking Snake Media.

    There is a nightmare stalking me.

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  3. 10 Cents:
    I thought maybe this post was about the first death due to this disease. It is unfortunate when anyone dies.

    Yeah.

    The man who died was in his 50s, had underlying health conditions and no history of travel or contact with a known COVID-19 case, health officials in Washington state said at a news conference. A spokesperson for EvergreenHealth Medical Center, Kayse Dahl, said the person died in the facility in the Seattle suburb of Kirkland.

    https://q13fox.com/2020/02/29/washington-gov-jay-inslee-declares-state-of-emergency-over-coronavirus/

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  4. More from Washington State:

    Dr. Frank Riedo, medical director of Infection Control at Evergreen, said local hospitals are seeing people with severe coronavirus symptoms but it’s probable that there are more cases in the community.

    “This is the tip of the iceberg,” he said.

    The health officials reported two cases of COVID-19 virus connected to a long-term care facility in the same suburb, Life Care Center of Kirkland. One is a Life Care worker, a woman in her 40s who is in satisfactory condition at a hospital, and the other is a woman in her 70s and a resident at Life Care who is hospitalized in serious condition. Neither had traveled abroad.

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  5. 10 Cents:
    I thought maybe this post was about the first death due to this disease. It is unfortunate when anyone dies.

    It is but I don’t separate health from sound business practices. Nobody should.

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  6. 10 Cents:
    I thought maybe this post was about the first death due to this disease. It is unfortunate when anyone dies.

    I agree with you 10 Cents, very unfortunate. But, was it their “time” to go?

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  7. G.D.:

    10 Cents:
    I thought maybe this post was about the first death due to this disease. It is unfortunate when anyone dies.

    I agree with you 10 Cents, very unfortunate. But, was it their “time” to go?

    Isn’t death at any time a person’s time to go?

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  8. 10 Cents:

    G.D.:

    10 Cents:
    I thought maybe this post was about the first death due to this disease. It is unfortunate when anyone dies.

    I agree with you 10 Cents, very unfortunate. But, was it their “time” to go?

    Isn’t death at any time a person’s time to go?

    It is, but when you go, don’t forget your password

    [video width="640" height="360" mp4="https://www.ratburger.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/password.mp4"][/video]

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  9. EThompson:

    10 Cents:
    I thought maybe this post was about the first death due to this disease. It is unfortunate when anyone dies.

    It is but I don’t separate health from sound business practices. Nobody should.

    This sounds like sound business practices are the most important. I just feel sorry for this person’s death and don’t understand how business practices are connected to it.

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  10. 10 Cents:

    EThompson:

    10 Cents:
    I thought maybe this post was about the first death due to this disease. It is unfortunate when anyone dies.

    It is but I don’t separate health from sound business practices. Nobody should.

    This sounds like sound business practices are the most important. I just feel sorry for this person’s death and don’t understand how business practices are connected to it.

    Believe me when I tell you my father’s death was needless but his $1.5 million dollar salaried doctor was so overwhelmed by his employers, the Naples Community Hospital, to operate on and tend to 25 patients a day, my dad was allowed to die.

    Note to the wise: If you live in Minnesota, Arizona, or Florida, set up all your medical care with the doctors at Mayo Clinic. They are more than competent but most importantly, are salaried and relieved of all bureaucratic or “quotas.” They are allowed to focus on one thing only: competent medical care.

    It isn’t free and operates on HSAs and health insurance as do all medical facilities and it often takes 2-3 weeks to get an appt but I don’t care. I’ve been there once and am heading back next week because my private practice/ assembly line orthopedic surgeon who also works on professional football players screwed up a knee surgery and I have to get that fixed!

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  11. Haakon Dahl:
    Returning to the topic (ahem) at hand, I am not impressed with the administration’s nor Trump’s public face on this serious and real threat.

    Not sure what he’s suppose to do. It IS serious but it ISN’T yet wide enough to cover the nation. I recollect the Influenza attack of about 208-2010 (can’t remember the exact date). It was everywhere, and we were out of meds to treat any but the most seriously ill. But we survived. Vitamin C and Magnesium turned out to work as well as Tamiflu.

    I think work is proceeding as quickly as it can to try to solve this problem. DJT has assigned a dedicated team of people to oversee the governmental parts of this effort and co-ordinate the private ones. The rest is up to each of us how we decide to face this.

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  12. Devereaux:

    Haakon Dahl:
    Returning to the topic (ahem) at hand, I am not impressed with the administration’s nor Trump’s public face on this serious and real threat.

    Not sure what he’s suppose to do. It IS serious but it ISN’T yet wide enough to cover the nation. I recollect the Influenza attack of about 208-2010 (can’t remember the exact date). It was everywhere, and we were out of meds to treat any but the most seriously ill. But we survived. Vitamin C and Magnesium turned out to work as well as Tamiflu.

    I think work is proceeding as quickly as it can to try to solve this problem. DJT has assigned a dedicated team of people to oversee the governmental parts of this effort and co-ordinate the private ones. The rest is up to each of us how we decide to face this.

    I agree.  I was satisfied with Trump’s response.  Staff from CDC and elsewhere in NIH have been reassigned to the COVID-19 team.  Trump said that the health bureaucracy is large enough to deal with the situation without the need to staff up.  Brilliant.  There are highly-qualified medical researchers who will leap at the chance to show their stuff, and will appreciate the break from the bureaucratic routine.  And, though we all whine about how long it takes for the Big Healthcare bureaucratic mills to grind, we can withstand an extra month of processing for most things.  If they make good choices about which matters are deserving of urgent attention, then they can be flexible enough to let most of their operations go short-handed for a few months.

    I am happy that he put Mike Pence on the point.  Trump trusts Pence.  That is the chief qualification.

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  13. Trump rarely fires my BS detector.  I don’t like the way he pooh-poohs this thing.  I don’t know what the right answer is, but he has staff for this sort of thing and I don’t.

    One thing he should stop doing is comparing it to the flu.  He is painting us into a corner — the more it’s viewed like the flu, the more Americans will resist and subvert even simple measures to stop its spread.  After all, we don’t do this for the flu, right?  This hurts twice — once in divorcing the administration from the political ground that they need to be both A) effective in combating the disease, and B) re-electable; and again it hurts in actually making the spread of the disease greater.  It makes the humans’ job harder and the disease’s job easier.

    It gets worse — anybody here familiar with the deadly second wave of the 1918 Spanish Flu?  Or more properly, were you aware that there was a first wave in the summer of 1918?  It wasn’t the weather that caused the second wave to be more deadly.  It was the opportunity to mutate afforded by the sheer numbers of the first wave.

    Any disease upon mutation could become more powerful, less powerful, or remain the same.  It could become more virulent, less virulent, or remain the same.  Even if we assign level chances for any of these ( and we presume that more is .25, less is .25, and remain is .5), and for the time being we ignore a likely moderate correlation between strength and r0, the fact is that a vanishingly rare likelihood of a disease becoming very powerful and very transmissible becomes simply inevitable given enough chances.  Wait a minute, don’t all of the other options also become inevitable?  Why yes they do, but they do not matter because any number of weak or reluctant virii do not matter — they get bred out of the gene pool by the one single chance mutation that works like gangbusters.

    The history of viruses is written by the worst among them.

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  14. Haakon Dahl:
    I don’t like the way he pooh-poohs this thing.

    I trust he has policies and people in place to combat this virus but doesn’t want to spread any more panic. There was no reason for the market to take such a precipitous decline at this point.

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  15. EThompson:

    Haakon Dahl:
    I don’t like the way he pooh-poohs this thing.

    I trust he has policies and people in place to combat this virus but doesn’t want to spread any more panic. There was no reason for the market to take such a precipitous decline at this point.

    (Okay, here we go.)  You panicked and sold everything and call everybody who sold irrational.  You say that your analysis is sound whereas others are unsound, yet you say that there is no good reason for the sell-off when YOU YOURSELF sold off.  When pressed to address the inconsistency and the derision your pour on anybody who disagrees with you, you primly declare that you do not care.

    Fine.  But if you don’t care, then the least you could do is shut up about it.  You have a whole thread about this which you abandoned when presented with calmly stated, reasonable arguments.

    When trouble is real, fear is a fundamental.

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  16. Haakon Dahl:
    You panicked and sold everything and call everybody who sold irrational.  You say that your analysis is sound whereas others are unsound, yet you say that there is no good reason for the sell-off when YOU YOURSELF sold off.

    Do you know how to read? I didn’t call anybody irrational; I called the perception irrational. I sold off because even though there was no logical reason for the decline, IT HAPPENED ANYWAY. I don’t argue with reality; I just have learned to react to it properly. If I’d done nothing, I would have lost over seven figures of my net worth.

    There are constantly stupid reasons for volatility but just because I find them ridiculous has nothing to do with anything.

    BTW, you never answered my question. Are you invested? At all?

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  17. So, if the investor community collectively decide “the rabble are gonna spook and sell,” and so they all sell, then tell me who was really spooked?  It seems to me that the rabble see the investors community suddenly all start selling, and then they also sell, because ‘those investors, they follow the markets real close and they stay informed.’

    This sort of circular panic would be amusing if it weren’t so costly.

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