How Long Before….

Masks become “uncool”?

Hectoring about distance is met with middle fingers?

We are handing teenagers a whole bunch of idiotic and arbitrary behaviors to rebel against.. what a gift!

Went to a supermarket open late, one right on the edge of suburbs and rural known for discount and bulk deals. No hipsters or woke people in sight. Lots of pickups, camo, gun racks and sleeveless shirts showing tattoos. The men were about the same.

The only mask wearers were old folks from the burbs. Distancing was enforced only at entrance and checkout. Cashiers had gloves but no masks.

Gaggles of teens cruised through on a Friday night, laughing and having a good time together. Families with small kids moved as a loosely gathered herd around the shopping cart.

I do believe for this section of the country the “opening” will take place rapidly. The group fear I see one mile to the West is completely absent.

It is amusing as I find our new house is the latest development to encroach on rural. One block to the east is country, with a John Deere dealer, horse ranches, small meat sellers, Riding Leathers shops (motorized and non motorized) and huge lots with stately ranch homes and some others with battered but neat mobile homes with the usual collection of parts vehicles in the yard. One block to the west is franchise suburbia with thai food, Pho shops, food trucks, eclectic crafts, massage and aromatherapy, spas, plastic surgeons and such. Seven miles south is fully woke 21st century city (west coast version) with the wealthy, the young gig economy folks along with the elderly hangers on who will not sell.

Freedom will flow from the rural this time. Cities will remain oppressed by fear the longest.

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Author: TKC 1101

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98 thoughts on “How Long Before….”

  1. My BMD has  always said nearly all serious health problems in America are caused by voluntary  behaviors: tobacco, alcohol, overeating, drug use, refusing to wear  motorcycle helmets, driving too fast (or drunk).

    Okay! Where ARE all those risk takers, those pleasure seekers, those “my body my choice” (in a good way) people NOW?   we NEED ‘em!    Get out there and flout the regs.  Live free or die!

    Here’s  what I’m afraid of : America is getting old.  One sign: she used to LOOOOve a sexy, even oversexed guy. JFK, LBJ, Bill C—and even  farther back, FDR!  Now, she purses her wrinkled lips at “vulgar” expressions, at mere handsy-ness?

    We did have one indication that maybe there’s life in the old girl yet: the flooding of DeBlasio’s snitch line with obscene photos.  You GO, America, girl!

    But is that, maybe just NYC?  Cuz I don’t think the great metropolis is emblematic of the nation.

    okay come ON!  The more we test, the lower and lower we find the fatality rate of this Chink virus is.  The oriental despot has no clothes!   We can’t let it keep US in sackcloth.

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  2. TKC 1101:
    We are handing teenagers a whole bunch of idiotic and arbitrary behaviors to rebel against.. what a gift!

    I find it impossible to express the depth of my gratitude for this thought. What a lifeline!

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  3. drlorentz:

    TKC 1101:
    Masks become “uncool”?

    Aren’t they already?

    I bought something from Staples yesterday. I bought it online and then went to the store to pick it up. Driving to the store, the roads were relatively crowded. Not like normal, but far more people were out than what I saw a week earlier.

    Anyway, when I got to the store I had to wear a mask. So I went in with a bandana over my face and when I went to pick up my purchase the asked for photo ID. They made me cover my face, then asked to see a picture of my face to confirm that it was me? I don’t blame the store because they don’t make the rules but let’s not allow people to call this “the new normal” because there is nothing normal about it and most people are slowly losing patience.

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  4. Hypatia:
    Okay! Where ARE all those risk takers, those pleasure seekers, those “my body my choice” (in a good way) people NOW?   we NEED ‘em!    Get out there and flout the regs.  Live free or die!

    They’re waiting for you to go first, o brave defender of freedom.

    Here’s  what I’m afraid of : America is getting old.  One sign: she used to LOOOOve a sexy, even oversexed guy. JFK, LBJ, Bill C—and even  farther back, FDR!  Now, she purses her wrinkled lips at “vulgar” expressions, at mere handsy-ness?

    Have you noticed our First Lady?  We may well be approaching peak national oversexedness!

    [Admin10:Redacted]

     

    okay come ON!  The more we test, the lower and lower we find the fatality rate of this Chink virus is.

    Also: Honor the memory of your Father and don’t be a garbage person.

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  5. There is not being paralyzed with fear, and there is being a mindless idiot. The first is good, the second is bad.

    The flu doesn’t kill entire nursing homes. The flu doesn’t kill 50,000 people in one month while the whole country is semi quarantined.

    At a minimum this is far more contagious than the flu. So masks and distance and extra sanitation are in order.

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  6. Damocles:

    Hypatia:
    Okay! Where ARE all those risk takers, those pleasure seekers, those “my body my choice” (in a good way) people NOW?   we NEED ‘em!    Get out there and flout the regs.  Live free or die!

    They’re waiting for you to go first, o brave defender of freedom.

    Im on it like a bonnet!

    Here’s  what I’m afraid of : America is getting old.  One sign: she used to LOOOOve a sexy, even oversexed guy. JFK, LBJ, Bill C—and even  farther back, FDR!  Now, she purses her wrinkled lips at “vulgar” expressions, at mere handsy-ness?

    Have you noticed our First Lady?  We may well be approaching peak national oversexedness!

    [Admin10:Redacted]

     

    yes and she’s been pilloried for it, as has Trump, for voicing strong opinions about female beauty.

    okay come ON!  The more we test, the lower and lower we find the fatality rate of this Chink virus is.

    Also: Honor the memory of your Father and don’t be a garbage person.

    My father? How dare you?

    Confucius say: yuk f—nah, never mind.

    Don’t  be an excrement head.

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  7. Aaaack I just watched An Important Message video from my city leaders “regarding reopening.”

    They are thinking about it and at some future time will tell us the date and what restrictions will be lifted.

    THAT is frustrating. Tell me something or  keep your mouth shut.

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  8. Jojo:
    Aaaack I just watched An Important Message video from my city leaders “regarding reopening.”

    They are thinking about it and at some future time will tell us the date and what restrictions will be lifted.

    THAT is frustrating. Tell me something or  keep your mouth shut.

    This is just pulling your string.  They are reminding you who has the power of police.

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  9. It is becoming more and more—and more—obvious that NOT showing symptoms of a present or past infection is not the exception, but the norm. These people are perfectly “well” in every sense that word has been understood.

    (I won’t be surprised if you can cite some piece that contradicts or sheds doubt on this.  Because there is NO possible theory about  this Chink  virus to which you can’t find completely contradictory ripostes.)

    And also that the vast majority of people who died, I have read as high as 99%, had some other co-morbidity, even in addition to extreme old age,  which may very well be what actually killed them.

    Get  real!  As HD recently charitably  said:  okay, we erred on the side of caution.
    But we DID err, by putting America outta work.  And we’re still erring, by paying people not to work.

    We had one goal, originally: prevent the health care system rom being overwhelmed.

    Done!  Now we’ve carried that to the extreme of putting health care providers outta work.

    Now let the well walking infected get on with our lives, before  people get used to those ideas we hated so much. Like UBI , elimination of meat products, no more air travel.

    If the Left can keep us in bed for a few more months , we’ll be too de-conditioned  to ever regain our strength.

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  10. MJBubba:

    Jojo:
    Aaaack I just watched An Important Message video from my city leaders “regarding reopening.”

    They are thinking about it and at some future time will tell us the date and what restrictions will be lifted.

    THAT is frustrating. Tell me something or  keep your mouth shut.

    This is just pulling your string.  They are reminding you who has the power of police.

    I believe you are right.

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  11. Hypatia:
    It is becoming more and more—and more—obvious that NOT showing symptoms of a present or past infection is not the exception, but the norm. These people are perfectly “well” in every sense that word has been understood.

    Which was predicted and is expected.  It is, after all a common cold virus, just a particularly kung-powerful one.

    (I won’t be surprised if you can cite some piece that contradicts or sheds doubt on this.  Because there is NO possible theory about  this Chink  virus to which you can’t find completely contradictory ripostes.)

    Agreed.  We have see all sorts of charts and graphs.  We got a great lesson in how to lie with statistics.  But there are enough facts out to demonstrate that the Wuhan Virus is different enough and deadly-enough to take extra, even costly, provisions.

    And also that the vast majority of people who died, I have read as high as 99%, had some other co-morbidity, even in addition to extreme old age,  which may very well be what actually killed them.

    Maybe so, but, still and all, they died.  As John Walker said earlier today on the Covid 19 thread, “death is a pretty unambiguous event.”   When a nursing home that typically sees forty deaths in two years all of a sudden has forty deaths in two weeks, then that is a striking event, not to be waved away because the victims were old.

    Get  real!  As HD recently charitably  said:  okay, we erred on the side of caution.
    But we DID err, by putting America outta work.  And we’re still erring, by paying people not to work.

    We are not erring still.  We are getting back to work.   Lots of areas are coming off of lockdown today, more Wednesday, still more next week.  Your impatience is showing.

    We had one goal, originally: prevent the health care system from being overwhelmed.

    Done!  Now we’ve carried that to the extreme of putting health care providers outta work.

    Agreed.  We went too far with lockdown rules.  But Americans are not real good at nuance, so it is generally best not to have any exceptions to rules.

    Now let the well walking infected get on with our lives, before  people get used to those ideas we hated so much. Like UBI , elimination of meat products, no more air travel.

    If the Left can keep us in bed for a few more months , we’ll be too de-conditioned  to ever regain our strength.

    It is time to get back to work.  In ten days most of the country will be back to work.  And we will see a new surge of Wuhan Virus, but, hopefully, not one that overwhelms our healthcare system.

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  12. See Baehr, The Standard for Reopening  States is Rigged, on Am.Thinker today.  He points out that simply due to increased testing alone, states will not be able to meet the 14 day decline-in-new-cases standard.
    What is the only worse  thing that can happen, say, to restaurants, bars?  I think it would be to re-stock,  be forced to close again, and watch their supplies rot away a second time.  I think that might be permanently demoralizing. If that were to happen , why would anybody risk it a second time?

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  13. We try to run a family friendly site so try to make sure the pictures of people have clothes.
    On racial epithets they are cheap shots. It is easy to do and it shows a weakness in your argument. It also feeds into the narrative that conservatives are racists. In other words they cause a whole lot of friction and little light.

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  14. Meanwhile,

    The chairman of Tyson Foods has issued a stark warning to Americans following the shuttering of multiple meat processing plants across the country: “The food supply chain is breaking.”

    Don’t worry, everything’s fine; nothing to see here. “If we can save even one life…”

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  15. drlorentz:
    Meanwhile,

    The chairman of Tyson Foods has issued a stark warning to Americans following the shuttering of multiple meat processing plants across the country: “The food supply chain is breaking.”

    Don’t worry, everything’s fine; nothing to see here. “If we can save even one life…”

    I know.  The Left won’t be happy till we have a famine,

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  16. 10 Cents:
    We try to run a family friendly site so try to make sure the pictures of people have clothes.

    [Wait, did somebody post a nude pic and I missed it?!]

    On racial epithets they are cheap shots. It is easy to do and it shows a weakness in your argument. It also feeds into the narrative that conservatives are racists. In other words they cause a whole lot of friction and little light.

    [Wait, did somebody post a racial epithet and I missed it?!?!]

    Hee  hee, sorry, Soxy .  Henceforth,  let the present plague be known  as:

    The Sino’s  Infection.

     

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  17. Hypatia:

    Damocles:

    Hypatia:
    okay come ON!  The more we test, the lower and lower we find the fatality rate of this Chink virus is.

    Also: Honor the memory of your Father and don’t be a garbage person.

    My father? How dare you?

    Was your father a garbage person who referred to the Asian Flu or Ebola using racial epithets for the people at the source of origin?

    Or was he a decent human being who didn’t casually use racial epithets?

    In which case, show some class, follow his example, and don’t shame his memory.

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  18. drlorentz:
    Meanwhile,

    The chairman of Tyson Foods has issued a stark warning to Americans following the shuttering of multiple meat processing plants across the country: “The food supply chain is breaking.”

    Don’t worry, everything’s fine; nothing to see here. “If we can save even one life…”

    As far as I understand,  blaming government shutdown requirements for meat processing plants closing is misplaced. They were not shut down by government, they are considered essential. They shut themselves down because all the workers were getting sick.

    Edit: reading your link it’s a little of both… government wanted longer shutdowns than plant had planned after workers started turning up sick , at least in one case. Still nobody shut them down until there clearly was a problem, and the plants will probably not be back to business as usual no matter what government says.

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  19. Jojo:

    drlorentz:
    Meanwhile,

    The chairman of Tyson Foods has issued a stark warning to Americans following the shuttering of multiple meat processing plants across the country: “The food supply chain is breaking.”

    Don’t worry, everything’s fine; nothing to see here. “If we can save even one life…”

    As far as I understand,  blaming government shutdown requirements for meat processing plants closing is misplaced. They were not shut down by government, they are considered essential. They shut themselves down because all the workers were getting sick.

    Edit: reading your link it’s a little of both… government wanted longer shutdowns than plant had planned after workers started turning up sick , at least in one case. Still nobody shut them down until there clearly was a problem, and the plants will probably not be back to business as usual no matter what government says.

    I’m not sure how you read my comment to mean “blaming government shutdown requirements for meat processing plants closing” since the government was mentioned nowhere in it. The point of both articles linked is that there is a potential for serious disruption, regardless of who instigated the closures. From this it follows that there will likely be other harms to the citizenry besides the possibility of contracting COVID-19.

    Although it’s forbidden to mention Thomas Sowell and tradeoffs, I’m gonna do it anyhow… because there are tradeoffs.

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  20. Damocles:

    Hypatia:

    Damocles:

    Hypatia:
    okay come ON!  The more we test, the lower and lower we find the fatality rate of this Chink virus is.

    Also: Honor the memory of your Father and don’t be a garbage person.

    My father? How dare you?

    Was your father a garbage person who referred to the Asian Flu or Ebola using racial epithets for the people at the source of origin?

    Or was he a decent human being who didn’t casually use racial epithets?

    In which case, show some class, follow his example, and don’t shame his memory.

    🧐Awww… you think you’ve found the Chink  in my armor?  Just don’t HARP on my dad, ‘k?  It’s deSPICable.  I oughta WOP ya.  This has nothing to do with him.  Dat’s  all….you have yourself a reeeeeel nice day, now!  From now on I neither hear nor see you.

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