The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now says the coronavirus “does not spread easily” through touching surfaces or objects

Can we stop being required to wear a freaking mask when going to the store then. This is ridiculous. I only wear a mask when I HAVE TO. That means as soon as I step into the store until I step out of the door. I also resent having to wear it the entire time, because I KNEW, that it is a pointless gesture that has nothing to do with preventing the spread of the virus.

At least this can shut the uptight busybody Karen’s up. You know those ladies who have appointed themselves the Mask Police on Next Door.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-on-surfaces/

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46 thoughts on “The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now says the coronavirus “does not spread easily” through touching surfaces or objects”

  1. Too effing funny.  Somewhere there must be a chart of the number of completely contradictory “studies” which have been solemnly presented to us.  I do repent me of my own occasional trepidation.

    Workers of the world, arise! You have nothing to lose but your CHAIRS!

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  2. Will YouTube and Facebook now remove all content that explained the importance of using masks and gloves? After all, that is now misinformation.

    It’s getting hard to keep up. “There is no human-to-human transmission.” “It’s highly contagious.” “It does not spread easily.” Meanwhile, the policy remains unchanged: stay home and shut up. It’s a good thing something remains constant. The government: the fixed stars in our firmament.

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  3. From the article,

    Specifically, it mainly spreads between people who are in close contact, within 6 feet of each other, when someone with the infection coughs, sneezes or talks, causing droplets to land in another person’s mouth or nose.

    Isn’t this what the masks are there to prevent?

    I am coming from a mask wearing country so I don’t see the burden of wearing one. I didn’t wear one for the longest time but I recognized that other person wearing one was being kind to those around them. It would be a hard sell to tell someone here that masks don’t work.

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  4. 10 Cents:
    From the article,

    Specifically, it mainly spreads between people who are in close contact, within 6 feet of each other, when someone with the infection coughs, sneezes or talks, causing droplets to land in another person’s mouth or nose.

    Isn’t this what the masks are there to prevent?

    I am coming from a mask wearing country so I don’t see the burden of wearing one. I didn’t wear one for the longest time but I recognized that other person wearing one was being kind to those around them. It would be a hard sell to tell someone here that masks don’t work.

    Keep in mind that this guidance came from the same people who assured us there was “no human-to-human transmission” a few short months ago.

    But, hey, Science!

    Edit: I forgot to mention that these same people were also telling us that masks don’t work at about the same time.

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  5. 10 Cents:
    From the article,

    Specifically, it mainly spreads between people who are in close contact, within 6 feet of each other, when someone with the infection coughs, sneezes or talks, causing droplets to land in another person’s mouth or nose.

    Isn’t this what the masks are there to prevent?

    I am coming from a mask wearing country so I don’t see the burden of wearing one. I didn’t wear one for the longest time but I recognized that other person wearing one was being kind to those around them. It would be a hard sell to tell someone here that masks don’t work.

    We are not a mask wearing country normally and I hate seeing so many people walking around OUTSIDE wearing masks. In the park, at the beach, IN THEIR CARS (what the heck!!) Also I remember way way back when they told us masks wouldn’t help

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/

    obviously CBS updated this report. But even other epidemiologists, and virologists have noted that going to the grocery store or short stints like that wouldn’t spread the virus. That it was prolonged exposure that would spread it. So the mask doesn’t help . Also have you seen what people are using as masks? These are sterile hospital masks. Basically people are covering their mouths with whatever they can find. Bandanas, scarves, etc… how does that help?

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  6. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/21/illinoisans-revolting-against-lockdowns-as-chicago-mayor-orders-parking-bans-around-churches-to-thwart-services/

    State totalitarianism versus personal arrogance.  It is better to die a little than to all die.  Who volunteers for the blurred dividing line?   If you are elderly or have underlying patholiogies, YES you should be paranoid.  For everybody else, somewhat.  When a working vaccine comes out, vote all Democrats out of office.

    Marx pounded a stake into mankind’s heart. Socialism removed a randomly brutal god by substituting determined committees.

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  7. Mate De:

    10 Cents:
    From the article,

    Specifically, it mainly spreads between people who are in close contact, within 6 feet of each other, when someone with the infection coughs, sneezes or talks, causing droplets to land in another person’s mouth or nose.

    Isn’t this what the masks are there to prevent?

    I am coming from a mask wearing country so I don’t see the burden of wearing one. I didn’t wear one for the longest time but I recognized that other person wearing one was being kind to those around them. It would be a hard sell to tell someone here that masks don’t work.

    We are not a mask wearing country normally and I hate seeing so many people walking around OUTSIDE wearing masks. In the park, at the beach, IN THEIR CARS (what the heck!!) Also I remember way way back when they told us masks wouldn’t help

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/

    obviously CBS updated this report. But even other epidemiologists, and virologists have noted that going to the grocery store or short stints like that wouldn’t spread the virus. That it was prolonged exposure that would spread it. So the mask doesn’t help . Also have you seen what people are using as masks? These are sterile hospital masks. Basically people are covering their mouths with whatever they can find. Bandanas, scarves, etc… how does that help?

    I am playing the devil’s advocate. Here it is just taken as fact that masks work. To say otherwise is like telling people that germ theory is hogwash. I think it helps as a social nudge here.  “Country X has a high death rate. Well of course, they didn’t wear masks!”

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  8. drlorentz:

    10 Cents:
    From the article,

    Specifically, it mainly spreads between people who are in close contact, within 6 feet of each other, when someone with the infection coughs, sneezes or talks, causing droplets to land in another person’s mouth or nose.

    Isn’t this what the masks are there to prevent?

    I am coming from a mask wearing country so I don’t see the burden of wearing one. I didn’t wear one for the longest time but I recognized that other person wearing one was being kind to those around them. It would be a hard sell to tell someone here that masks don’t work.

    Keep in mind that this guidance came from the same people who assured us there was “no human-to-human transmission” a few short months ago.

    But, hey, Science!

    Edit: I forgot to mention that these same people were also telling us that masks don’t work at about the same time.

    “But they have letters after their names …”

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  9. I don’t think anybody believes what these unaccountable, lifetime-employed “civil servants” say any more.  Funny, how issuing definitive, un-hedged statements with the authority of Science, then completely contradicting them a few weeks later with equivalent authority and no explanation or apology for the original statement will do that.  It’s just noise, like all of the stock market “experts” on the cable business channels whose track record over decades is no better than random choice.  When you see some bureaucrat in a lab coat telling you what Science says, just imagine you’re hearing it from Jim Cramer.

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  10. John Walker:
    I don’t think anybody believes what these unaccountable, lifetime-employed “civil servants” say any more.  Funny, how issuing definitive, un-hedged statements with the authority of Science, then completely contradicting them a few weeks later with equivalent authority and no explanation or apology for the original statement will do that.  It’s just noise, like all of the stock market “experts” on the cable business channels whose track record over decades is no better than random choice.  When you see some bureaucrat in a lab coat telling you what Science says, just imagine you’re hearing it from Jim Cramer.

    This comment reminds me of Nassim Taleb. Where is Hammurabi when you need him? (This is reference to that code killing the architect if the building collapsed.)

    Old: I am not a doctor but I play one on TV.

    New: I am not an actor but I play one on TV.

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  11. Spread by contact with objects is entirely different from droplet/aerosol spread. Masks reduce the likelihood of person to person infection via droplet/aerosol. This is really no more than common sense mechanics and more and more studies bear this out. Now, is it possible that a cough or sneeze can deposit viable virus on an object which, if touched by another person in a short period of time, can spread infection? Yes, it can. All they are saying here is that is unlikely. It is a separate issue from masks.

    It is important to not conflate these two different means by which infection may be spread. The CDC statement does not say anything about masks. It speaks only to spread via infected objects (fomites). Masks remain important in reducing the spread of this or any respiratory virus. The better the mask, the less likely the virus is to spread via droplet/aerosol from one person to another. I have worn masks for years on airplanes during flu season. You won’t see me without one – and I mean an N-95 – in any indoor space without one for the foreseeable future. Do I like doing it? Nope. I think of it as risk reduction and worth the small cost and inconvenience.

    It would be less confusing if the government hadn’t led off with big lies – saying masks were ineffective – when they wanted to prevent the public from buying up all the masks, thereby making them unavailable for health workers. The simple truth is, again, common sense: respiratory virus spread via droplet/aerosol. Masks catch some of those emitted by infected individuals when they breathe/cough/sneeze; that is, they reduce the amount which goes into the air (particularly indoors, where they can linger); further, when worn by others who are not infected, masks reduce the dosage they inhale. The lower the number of viral particles inhaled, the lower the likelihood the person becomes infected. Again, this is a completely separate issue from infection by contact with objects.

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  12. civil westman:
    Spread by contact with objects is entirely different from droplet/aerosol spread. Masks reduce the likelihood of person to person infection via droplet/aerosol. This is really no more than common sense mechanics and more and more studies bear this out. Now, is it possible that a cough or sneeze can deposit viable virus on an object which, if touched by another person in a short period of time, can spread infection? Yes, it can. All they are saying here is that is unlikely. It is a separate issue from masks.

    Stay away from people who sputter when they talk…

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  13. Robert A. McReynolds:
    I wonder how much of this whole virus thing is wrong and a product of hast? The more this stuff goes on and the longer the lockdowns last, the more volitile the situation will become.

    Robert, you have a good head on your shoulders, let me throw a thought at you…

    Let us suppose the “deep state” was looking for one last attempt at the present administration. They were “gifted” with a virus, not totally unlike what has come from China in the past, maybe a little bit nastier, but far short of an intentional biological attack. They were slow to realize it’s potential, the present administration said no more flights from China, but they the party not in the White House said that’s hogwash, there ain’t no problem. Then the “deep state” got them to toe the line and alerted the media, in their back pocket, let’s use this, Nancy then, with the “deep state’s” blessing added bullshit to the first relief package, after all it’s just money. Bottom line is the “deep state” still wants to derail the Trump Train and this “pandemic” will stretch out to the election by their lieutenants, democratic governors and the media in hopes of a train wreck.

    How’s that sound to you?

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  14. civil westman:
    Spread by contact with objects is entirely different from droplet/aerosol spread. Masks reduce the likelihood of person to person infection via droplet/aerosol. This is really no more than common sense mechanics and more and more studies bear this out. Now, is it possible that a cough or sneeze can deposit viable virus on an object which, if touched by another person in a short period of time, can spread infection? Yes, it can. All they are saying here is that is unlikely. It is a separate issue from masks.

    Understood. Nevertheless, it remains that we have been told a bunch of mutually contradictory things over these few months, which is why the authorities have lost all credibility.

    Regarding the efficacy of masks and physical distancing, the evidence for these measures is based on (a) intuition (“common sense”) and (b) tests in artificial/laboratory settings. As for (a), that’s not science and (b) is only the beginning of hypothesis testing. The absurd notion that 6 ft separation is okay, but 5 ft is not, is enshrined in policy. Nothing in the real world works that way.

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  15. Gerry_D:
    How’s that sound to you?

    Pretty good for conspiracy theorizing.

    But no conspiracy is needed.  At first they scoffed at President Trump closing travel from China, because they reflexively scoff at all things Trump.  They kept that up for a month.

    Then they all noticed the sharp falloff in the stock market, and, just about the time the Virus began to spread around NewYorkCity, they figured out that, ‘hey, this thing could kill the Trump Economy, and kill Trump with it.’   It only takes a few tweets to get that thought spread around Lefty world.

    They don’t need to conspire.  They all think the same way.  Once they are on board with the meme, then they can all do their part to advance the Leftist agenda.  No conspiratorial communications happen.  They even try to shush the ones in their ranks who actually spell out what they are thinking, about using the economic hit to take down Trump.

    The problem is, the election is still over five months away.   Plenty of time for a Trump Recovery.

    They are nervous.  They are gearing up for new onslaughts of lawyers, dirty tricks, vote fraud, vote suppression, lies, slanders and faux outrage.

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  16. It’s panic theater. None of this crap has anything to do with public health. If masks were such a panacea, why didn’t they make anyone start wearing them until after the numbers started falling? The better the numbers are, the more restrictions they impose to keep the hysteria going. This is about control and keeping the economy wrecked until November

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  17. The Sinistral Bassist:
    If masks were such a panacea, why didn’t they make anyone start wearing them until after the numbers started falling?

    Because nobody had any masks until then.

    They were lying in January when they dismissed masks, because they wanted to scarf up all the masks for healthcare providers.

    Now that surgical masks are widely available, they are encouraging use of surgical masks.

    When N95 masks become readily available, they will encourage the use of N95 masks.

    They lost a lot of credibility from this bit of dishonesty.

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