Quit Whining; It Only Feeds the Trolls

The Right are playing their assigned role in the iconoclasts’ drama: a Dionysian festival. The Left are gladdened by your tears; they derive their energy from the wailing and moans of the Right. As Zman explains,

There is no shortage of analysis trying to explain the insane behavior of mobs pulling down statues. All of it from outside the Progressive hive misses the point, because it projects reason and consciousness of thought onto the performers. What’s happening is these people are just that, performers. They are unconsciously playing a role, like participants in a pagan ceremony. They are doing so for their Progressive audience, who cheers and sobs after each statue is toppled.

This is the real source of power of the Left. It is not that they control the institutions or control the media. Those are consequences, not causes. Their real power is they control public morality and the expression of it. All public rituals are funneled through left-wing mythology, drawing in friends and foes, all of whom play a role in the great ongoing morality tale of liberal democracy. Like pre-reformation Catholic Church, the Left controls the supply of salvation. [emphasis added]

It’s time to stop cooperating with the enemy by accepting their moral framework and playing the roles they’ve scripted for everyone.

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Author: drlorentz

photon whisperer & quantum mechanic

48 thoughts on “Quit Whining; It Only Feeds the Trolls”

  1. Hypatia:
    OK…so what ARE we s’posed to do?

    Get involved in some of the political campaigns. I’m in California so I need to go out of state to volunteer.

    Convince your daughter we’re not horrible people.

    Host local conservative meetups.

    Definitely avoid spreading gloom and despair. It’s a much more enjoyable fight if we’re listening to the lamentations of their women.

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  2. The only role we should be playing is smashing them. If only conservatives/traditionalists would group up and meet them at every “protest” armed if necessary and begin to put an end to this.

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  3. Robert A. McReynolds:
    The only role we should be playing is smashing them. If only conservatives/traditionalists would group up and meet them at every “protest” armed if necessary and begin to put an end to this.

    It sounds so great, and I’m up on my state’s open carry laws: if you legally own the gun, you can carry it anywhere openly ( except in the city of Philadelphia, and in/on a vehicle.I can also tell you that in my state, pointing a gun at another person is a crime: assault if unloaded, recklessly endangering if loaded.   ( That’s in public; we do have a pretty strong “castle doctrine”)  So does being armed help us?

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  4. SHOOT BACK.  1 or 500 corpses, it is almost the same headline.  Anne Frank?  Boo hoo hoo.  6 million starved then murdered in the camps?  Never happened, nor the other 5 million who got less, and it never happened,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps#Total_number_of_camps_and_casualties

    .Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in the gulag vs. 20 million.  Two Manhattan buildings versus 2977 dead civilians.

    youtu.be/FKCmyiljKo0
    … Rome said, “so be it.” Shoot back.  Tessellate the pavement with their corpses. 71 BC, 6000 slaves lined the Appian Way, crucified.  One presumes they got Spartacus.

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  5. Robert A. McReynolds:
    The only role we should be playing is smashing them. If only conservatives/traditionalists would group up and meet them at every “protest” armed if necessary and begin to put an end to this.

    Can you translate this into several actionable things people could do?

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  6. Hypatia:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    The only role we should be playing is smashing them. If only conservatives/traditionalists would group up and meet them at every “protest” armed if necessary and begin to put an end to this.

    It sounds so great, and I’m up on my state’s open carry laws: if you legally own the gun, you can carry it anywhere openly ( except in the city of Philadelphia, and in/on a vehicle.I can also tell you that in my state, pointing a gun at another person is a crime: assault if unloaded, recklessly endangering if loaded.   ( That’s in public; we do have a pretty strong “castle doctrine”)  So does being armed help us?

    Well before it gets to that there needs to be a dedicated group. If it’s just you facing off against them, you will get hurt. Being armed is fine and dandy, but being armed is futile if alone. Who is going to risk it if there aren’t comrades in arms standing with you against the hordes? They are destroying our history! It’s our goddamned country too and I am sick and tired of these ungrateful bastards getting to trash it every other year. Doc keeps talking about heads on pikes. How about we put some of these BLM scum’s heads on pikes?

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  7. Robert A. McReynolds:

    Hypatia:
    OK…so what ARE we s’posed to do?

    Yes exactly. It is not like if we ignore them they will go away and the Leave it to Beaver culture Conservatives claim to want to reconstruct will return.

    Nobody serious is suggesting nostalgia for the past as an approach. Besides the actions @damocles mentioned, arrest and prosecute the miscreants.

    What is not helpful is acting hurt, apologizing, or acting any of the other assigned parts. Since Spiro Agnew came up in today’s RAMU, I’ll use a quote from him:

    This is the criminal left that belongs not in a dormitory, but in a penitentiary. The criminal left is not a problem to be solved by the Department of Philosophy or the Department of English—it is a problem for the Department of Justice…. Black or white, the criminal left is interested in power.

    Remarkable how this half-century-old quote is apt today.

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  8. drlorentz:
    What is not helpful is acting hurt

    This is a super-important point.  It saps your own will but more importantly spreads despair among your own people.

    That’s why behaving cowardly (which is what this is) is specified as a capital offense by the military.

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  9. First, whenever challenged by a Leftist, be sure to listen carefully.  Then politely say “I reject your false premise.”

    If they go to shouting, then you won; say they are unwilling to defend their false premises and that is the end of the conversation.

    You are not trying to win Leftists over.  You are arguing for the sake of the onlookers who don’t know that they are full of stuff.   Lurkers and bystanders need to hear that you are prepared to defend your side but unwilling to do so in the face of lies, slanders and shouting.

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  10. Damocles:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    Doc keeps talking about heads on pikes. How about we put some of these BLM scum’s heads on pikes?

    Do you have something that’s possibly a bit more practical than beheading the people who disagree with you?

    I’m sorry, but we are way past mere “disagreement” here. Have you not seen what is going on? Rhetorical, of course you have seen what is going on. Non-rhetorical: do you really think that organizing to vote is going to be effective? Look people, if the Right does not begin to organize and form groups capable of meeting them with the same level of force that they are demonstrating at this very moment, then this is all just pissing in the wind. We have all bemoaned the lack of law enforcement protecting private property (the riots) or personal safety (the acts of violence against white folks). If nothing else, the current string of offenses coupled with the current displays of acquiesing by the police should tell us all that the only people who are going to be able to do anything about this is We the Armed Citizenry. Voting isn’t going to get us there.

    All that said, though, and as per usual with the Right, we don’t want to do squat that requires us to actually band together and physically fight these bastards. Oh be we will go knocking door to door in our suburban hoods and register people to vote. THEY ARE WINNING PEOPLE. GET IT TOGETHER.

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  11. MJBubba:
    First, whenever challenged by a Leftist, be sure to listen carefully.  Then politely say “I reject your false premise.”

    If they go to shouting, then you won; say they are unwilling to defend their false premises and that is the end of the conversation.

    You are not trying to win Leftists over.  You are arguing for the sake of the onlookers who don’t know that they are full of stuff.   Lurkers and bystanders need to hear that you are prepared to defend your side but unwilling to do so in the face of lies, slanders and shouting.

    Bubba this is beyond false premises.

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  12. Robert A. McReynolds:

    Bubba this is beyond false premises.

    Thanks. This is exactly the kind of the little drama I had in mind. Lefty is yelling “Nazi” and Posobiec is playing the aggrieved right-winger attacked by Lefty. What the heck did he right was going to happen when he showed up at BHAZ?

    Great optics, btw. Posobiec is all sweaty and getting chased off. He probably went home and cried to his supporters about how the mean ol’ leftists bullied him. I bet BLM and Antifa are sharing this video around and having a good laugh. Good work getting pwned by the libs. Frankly, I could only watch a couple of minutes since it was so cringe.

    Survey question: Do you think this outcome of this mini-drama is going to make it more or less likely that such incidents will be repeated in the future?
    ▢ more likely
    ▢ less likely
    Check only one box.

    You were posting this video ironically, right?

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  13. drlorentz:

    Robert A. McReynolds:

    Bubba this is beyond false premises.

    Thanks. This is exactly the kind of the little drama I had in mind. Lefty is yelling “Nazi” and Posobiec is playing the aggrieved right-winger attacked by Lefty. What the heck did he right was going to happen when he showed up at BHAZ?

    Great optics, btw. Posobiec is all sweaty and getting chased off. He probably went home and cried to his supporters about how the mean ol’ leftists bullied him. I bet BLM and Antifa are sharing this video around and having a good laugh. Good work getting pwned by the libs. Frankly, I could only watch a couple of minutes since it was so cringe.

    Survey question: Do you think this outcome of this mini-drama is going to make it more or less likely that such incidents will be repeated in the future?
    ▢ more likely
    ▢ less likely
    Check only one box.

    see this is the frustrating thing about your comment. Here you see a perfectly good example of how one side in this is actively at war and you look at it and say “idiot, he was playing his role in this drama.” I see that you had nothing to say about the incident in Utah where a guy was shot by one of these POS. You can deny the connection between the two but there can be no doubt that they are both actions of war.

    Further, in the Posobiec video, the creatures were also yelling “this our city.” They have conquered territory and are not allowing free movement of citizens. They are taking all steps to demonstrate they are prosecuting a war. Until the Right gets into the same mindset, all we are doing is flapping our jaws.

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  14. Damocles says:

    Uncle Al:
    SHOOT BACK. […]

    Perhaps in some cases we’ll be content if some people just continue to whine online.

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminist-social-epistemology/
    … Feminism now defines civilization.  The whole of planet Earth is on the rag, forever, except…

    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/07/08/w-h-o-backs-chinas-handling-of-bubonic-plague-outbreak-not-high-risk/
    … Pneumonic plague (airborne bubonic plague; 72 hours to death) is loose in China. WHO says “it is being well-handled.”  We now excitedly disassemble the entirety of what keeps our cities alive, heaps of tinder begging for sparks.

    You die any way you like.  I’f I go down,  I’m taking zombies with me.

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  15. Robert McR:  “we don’t want to do squat that requires us to actually band together and physically fight these bastards.”

    So true!  Don’t look to voting as an answer.  The sad fact is that most “Republicans” are Democrats who chose to run under the Republican name because the area has been gerrymandered to put a Republican majority in that ghetto.

    So what is the answer?  One less violent possibility would be a tax strike.  It would only work at a local/State level, since the Feds just print money anyway.  And it would take organization.  A lone person refusing to pay property tax would get the Epstein “suicide watch” treatment — where the authorities watch you commit suicide and provide whatever “help” is required.  But a very large group of people united against paying tax until the local Political Class gets reasonable would be too much for the authorities to handle — and it would get their attention.

    On more kinetic (to use an Obamination) responses, it has been said that a real civil war requires the military to fracture.  In a world in which Democrats are denigrating and defunding the now quite militarized police, perhaps the tax protestors should be encouraging the police to ignore the corrupt judicial system and the worthless elected politicians and simply take back the streets.  Sure, there would be some score-settling and abuses, but it would be preferable to what is developing now.

    Nuclei for an organized movement of tax protestors who would encourage & defend robust policing?  Maybe local NRA and VFW chapters?  Robert is exactly right — without organized opposition to the Red Guard where people put their lives, their fortunes, & their sacred Honor on the line, it will be Game Over.

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  16. Robert A. McReynolds:
    see this is the frustrating thing about your comment. Here you see a perfectly good example of how one side in this is actively at war and you look at it and say “idiot, he was playing his role in this drama.”

    Okay, but he was playing his assigned role and I’m sure Lefty had a good laugh about it afterwards. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I see that you had nothing to say about the incident in Utah where a guy was shot by one of these POS.

    Yeah, in the same way you didn’t answer my little survey. I’m under no obligation to respond to each and every comment of yours, just as you can ignore mine. But just out of curiosity, which box would you check?

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    Further, in the Posobiec video, the creatures were also yelling “this our city.” They have conquered territory and are not allowing free movement of citizens. They are taking all steps to demonstrate they are prosecuting a war. Until the Right gets into the same mindset, all we are doing is flapping our jaws.

    What’s your suggestion, cowboy? To unholster yer six-shooter and start blazin’ away? I’m guessing not, since you probably don’t want to spend the rest of your days in the hoosegow. If I didn’t know you, I’d think all this talk of war was the work of a fedposter.

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  17. Gavin Longmuir:
    Don’t look to voting as an answer.

    I agree with this part but I’m not so sure about the rest. A tax strike doesn’t look promising to me and a shooting war would end in tears for almost everyone. A more promising path forward is peaceful separation by self-segregation. This is a trend that is taking hold throughout the world: Brexit, Scotland, Catalonia, Yugoslavia. The separation is not always peaceful but we can hope, right? There are several dozen more countries today than there were 30 years ago. Expect this trend to continue.

    Kurt Schlichter wrote a series of humorous, yet serious, books about this. I only read the first, People’s Republic, which lays out the end state of the process. There’s simply no reason to imagine that the fate of the American Empire will be any different from the fate of previous empires. When peaceful coexistence is no longer operative, peaceful separation is the best solution. We had a good run.

    N.B.: I’m not predicting separation in the immediate future. It’s one possible outcome of the current unrest but the denouement will probably be postponed.

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  18. This will continue until the Right decides to stop whining and actually put an end to it. I don’t know that we’ll ever reach that point since we should have passed it long ago. The Founders were willing to kill over the principle of a 2 cent tax. We’re unwilling to even protest over being locked in our homes, have government arbitrarily decide which businesses are essential, forced to wear masks even when healthy and outdoors, being told when and how or even whether we can worship. It’s that simple. Until we are willing to kill to defend our rights, until we take them as seriously as the Founders did, we will continue to see them trampled and erased. The fact that we cannot even state something as simple as that without it being ruled out of bounds illustrates why we lose.

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  19. The Sinistral Bassist:
    We’re unwilling to even protest over being locked in our homes, have government arbitrarily decide which businesses are essential, forced to wear masks even when healthy and outdoors, being told when and how or even whether we can worship.

    This statement is manifestly false. There have been protests all over the country. It’s hard to tell if they’ve had an effect, though I can report anecdotally that the police in my area are sympathetic. Since they are the enforcers of the restrictions, that is far more important than the incoherent ramblings of the political class.

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