Quit Whining; It Only Feeds the Trolls

The Right are playing their assigned role in the iconoclasts’ drama: a Dionysian festival. The Left are gladdened by your tears; they derive their energy from the wailing and moans of the Right. As Zman explains,

There is no shortage of analysis trying to explain the insane behavior of mobs pulling down statues. All of it from outside the Progressive hive misses the point, because it projects reason and consciousness of thought onto the performers. What’s happening is these people are just that, performers. They are unconsciously playing a role, like participants in a pagan ceremony. They are doing so for their Progressive audience, who cheers and sobs after each statue is toppled.

This is the real source of power of the Left. It is not that they control the institutions or control the media. Those are consequences, not causes. Their real power is they control public morality and the expression of it. All public rituals are funneled through left-wing mythology, drawing in friends and foes, all of whom play a role in the great ongoing morality tale of liberal democracy. Like pre-reformation Catholic Church, the Left controls the supply of salvation. [emphasis added]

It’s time to stop cooperating with the enemy by accepting their moral framework and playing the roles they’ve scripted for everyone.

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Author: drlorentz

photon whisperer & quantum mechanic

48 thoughts on “Quit Whining; It Only Feeds the Trolls”

  1. drlorentz:

    The Sinistral Bassist:
    We’re unwilling to even protest over being locked in our homes, have government arbitrarily decide which businesses are essential, forced to wear masks even when healthy and outdoors, being told when and how or even whether we can worship.

    This statement is manifestly false. There have been protests all over the country. It’s hard to tell if they’ve had an effect, though I can report anecdotally that the police in my area are sympathetic. Since they are the enforcers of the restrictions, that is far more important than the incoherent ramblings of the political class.

    We’re still locked down. We’re still under mask mandates. We still have “protests” and statues being torn down while being told we can’t sing in church. A handful of people who showed up once or twice and did nothing had zero effect. If it had, we wouldn’t still be under lockdown going on month five of “15 days”.

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  2. I’m not sure what is meant by ‘whining’. I am pessimistic as can be as to the trajectory of our culture and this nation and being able to say so is a substantial part of why I have felt at home here. If I am mistaken and that constitutes ‘whining’, I will adapt accordingly. On the other hand, I am not even slightly interested in “explaining the behavior” of leftist mobs. What I am interested in is effectively resisting them. It would be a good start to begin calling mobs intent on mayhem something other than “protesters”. I have to say I am terrified by videos of so-called ‘protesters’ attacking people in cars. The MSM only shows the result of the poor driver trying to get away – i.e. the ones who don’t stop who inadvertently injure those trying to kill them – and call them ‘right-wing terrorists’. What the MSM never shows is what happens to those innocents who are torn from their cars and beaten senseless or to death by felons they call ‘protesters’.

    I submit it is difficult to not be extremely pessimistic in light of things like that (and I find it mildly therapeutic to say so). Trying to escape the insanity for a few minutes (I won’t be watching the NFL anymore for the reason I am about to elucidate), I just watched a Coca-Cola commercial during a movie on Roku. It spent a full minute extolling and explicitly supporting BLM. Is my pointing that out whining? Is this an invitation to not speak here, too? “Soft deplatforming”? I sure hope I am misunderstanding. I would like to know. I don’t think the left has any need of assistance in further silencing us, their enemies – even if we differ in how to oppose them. And, though I am not glad to have to say it, they are our enemies.

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  3. The Sinistral Bassist:
    We’re still locked down.

    Not sure what you mean by “we” or “locked down.” Taking those words at their conventional meanings*, we are not locked down. I’m enjoying a late lunch down by the beach. Few people, other than restaurant servers, wear masks.

    *we = you and I
    locked down = rarely permitted to leave the house

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  4. drlorentz:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    see this is the frustrating thing about your comment. Here you see a perfectly good example of how one side in this is actively at war and you look at it and say “idiot, he was playing his role in this drama.”

    Okay, but he was playing his assigned role and I’m sure Lefty had a good laugh about it afterwards. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    I see that you had nothing to say about the incident in Utah where a guy was shot by one of these POS.

    Yeah, in the same way you didn’t answer my little survey. I’m under no obligation to respond to each and every comment of yours, just as you can ignore mine. But just out of curiosity, which box would you check?

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    Further, in the Posobiec video, the creatures were also yelling “this our city.” They have conquered territory and are not allowing free movement of citizens. They are taking all steps to demonstrate they are prosecuting a war. Until the Right gets into the same mindset, all we are doing is flapping our jaws.

    What’s your suggestion, cowboy? To unholster yer six-shooter and start blazin’ away? I’m guessing not, since you probably don’t want to spend the rest of your days in the hoosegow. If I didn’t know you, I’d think all this talk of war was the work of a fedposter.

    To answer your survey, it would certainly encourage more of the same. But here’s the answer to the missing part of your question: It also encourages more of the same if WE DO NOTHING. That’s the problem Doc, this isn’t about putting egg on the Right’s face. It is about destroying that which we all claim to hold dear, i.e., a free, self-governing society. If Posobiec goes to that demonstration or not, those jackals are still going to act like rabid jackals and they will in the future.

    The problem is that, on my own, no I am not going to go in there guns ablazin–as much as I would love to to just take a few them out for good. Solitary action is stupid. What I suggest–although I have no idea how to do this–is to gather a group of like minded Patriots, armed if necessary, and go to these little “demonstrations” with the intent to either A) exercise our rights to be where we wish to be in a free society (in Posobiec’s case a park in DC) or B) exercise our right to self defense as a group. Hell they are the ones who want this crap anyway. They want the violence. I say we give it to them. But it cannot be done by individuals. It has to be done by groups of people with common interests and desires.

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  5. drlorentz:

    Gavin Longmuir:
    Don’t look to voting as an answer.

    I agree with this part but I’m not so sure about the rest. A tax strike doesn’t look promising to me and a shooting war would end in tears for almost everyone. A more promising path forward is peaceful separation by self-segregation. This is a trend that is taking hold throughout the world: Brexit, Scotland, Catalonia, Yugoslavia. The separation is not always peaceful but we can hope, right? There are several dozen more countries today than there were 30 years ago. Expect this trend to continue.

    Kurt Schlichter wrote a series of humorous, yet serious, books about this. I only read the first, People’s Republic, which lays out the end state of the process. There’s simply no reason to imagine that the fate of the American Empire will be any different from the fate of previous empires. When peaceful coexistence is no longer operative, peaceful separation is the best solution. We had a good run.

    N.B.: I’m not predicting separation in the immediate future. It’s one possible outcome of the current unrest but the denouement will probably be postponed.

    Self segregation is also only a half measure because they can still reach you through force of the State in the form of lawfare. You can live in a residential area with nothing but gun toting Right wingers but you will pay your taxes and support their stupid racial/gender based policies or else. Separation has to be absolute, both culturally and politically, in order to actually have any effect in the positive for those of us more inclined to traditionalism. Otherwise you are just living in a concentration camp with no barbed wire around you.

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  6. drlorentz:

    The Sinistral Bassist:
    We’re still locked down.

    Not sure what you mean by “we” or “locked down.” Taking those words at their conventional meanings*, we are not locked down. I’m enjoying a late lunch down by the beach. Few people, other than restaurant servers, wear masks.

    *we = you and I
    locked down = rarely permitted to leave the house

    Are you allowed to eat inside at full capacity? Are you allowed inside the bar at all? Are businesses being fined for violations? We can be pedantic and go through state by state and detail how the level of lockdown varies, or we can admit that five months into “15 days” any restrictions at all still constitute some form of lockdown. The fact that you appear unbothered by the state of things shows you’ve already become mentally conditioned to acquiescing to the new status quo. That’s fine, but if you want the same country as your Founders had, you have to be willing to do the things they did to create it and maintain it. We clearly are not willing to do those things. This is why we’re stuck in this unending cycle.

    The Left will use propaganda, violence, election fraud: no avenue is closed to their march for power. The Right complains, makes a few token efforts, and then goes along with it. We either need to acknowledge that despite all of our protestations, we really aren’t that bothered by it all so long as we are personally not impacted (or at least not impacted enough to make us uncomfortable) and stop complaining, or we need to acknowledge that we are that bothered by it and do whatever is necessary to make it stop like the Founders did.

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  7. civil westman:
    I am not even slightly interested in “explaining the behavior” of leftist mobs. What I am interested in is effectively resisting them.

    To defeat an enemy, one must first understand him. Sun Tzu probably said something like that. Anyway, the point was less about understanding Lefty than it was to understand the ineffectual response of many on the other side. That video Robert posted was a perfect illustration of the problem, as I explained.

    Don’t confuse whining and complaining. I’ve complained plenty around here. I share your pessimism, btw.

    Lunch has arrived, so I’ll leave it at that.

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  8. In Delaware it is STATE LAW to wear a mask when entering into a building. In other jurisdictions there is talk of making it mandatory for being OUTSIDE. And in some other States you can be arrested for not wearing a mask.

    It is simply wrong to state, on the basis of one’s own little corner of the universe, that the COVID thing is this or that. In some states, this has been an excuse to unleash tyranny by State governments. In other States, not so much. And even still in portions of states where there is tyranny, freedom still reigns supreme.

    The challenge is not the COVID policies. The challenge are these Jacobins who control major cities telling you and me that we are not welcome there for no other reason than we didn’t vote for Hilldabeast and/or we are white males. Those are the people we should be rifle butting in the face so as not to waste bullets on such lowlifes. Instead we are told not to whine.

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  9. Robert A. McReynolds:
    But it cannot be done by individuals. It has to be done by groups of people with common interests and desires.

    The problem is that the fraction of people who will take any kind of direct action in defence of their liberty when it involves direct personal risk to them and their families is very small.  The French Resistance is estimated by Robert Paxton, the eminent scholar on Vichy and the occupation, as around 2% of the population, and they were opposing Nazi occupation of their country.  During the American war of independence, it is estimated that supporters of independence, supporters of the British crown, and those who wished the whole thing would just go away were about equal in numbers.

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  10. John W:  “During the American war of independence, it is estimated that supporters of independence, supporters of the British crown, and those who wished the whole thing would just go away were about equal in numbers.

    More recently, in the famous Brexit referendum in the UK, the situation was 37% of UK citizens voted to leave the EU, 35% voted to remain in the EU, and 28% chose not to vote.  Surprisingly similar to the estimated situation in the North American colonies (excluding Canada) more than 2 centuries ago.  Is this telling us something about human nature?

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  11. Robert A. McReynolds:
    The problem is that, on my own, no I am not going to go in there guns ablazin–as much as I would love to to just take a few them out for good. Solitary action is stupid. What I suggest–although I have no idea how to do this–is to gather a group of like minded Patriots, armed if necessary, and go to these little “demonstrations” with the intent to either A) exercise our rights to be where we wish to be in a free society (in Posobiec’s case a park in DC) or B) exercise our right to self defense as a group. Hell they are the ones who want this crap anyway. They want the violence. I say we give it to them. But it cannot be done by individuals. It has to be done by groups of people with common interests and desires.

    I think if we look where that’s been tried, it hasn’t been sustainable and was counterproductive.  Look at the Proud Boys in Berkeley.

    OTOH, does it make a difference that Tom Cotton is a Senator now?  I think so, and I’m happy for whatever my tiny contribution of time and money helped put him there.

    Likewise, I think everybody should be supporting this candidate who will be running against Ilhan Omar.  Will it make a difference?  Who knows, but at least I have the satisfaction of having supported people who are giving it a shot.  Help her out, she’s fighting some pretty big guns!

    https://daliaforcongress.com

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  12. The Sinistral Bassist:
    Are you allowed to eat inside at full capacity? Are you allowed inside the bar at all? Are businesses being fined for violations? We can be pedantic and go through state by state and detail how the level of lockdown varies, or we can admit that five months into “15 days” any restrictions at all still constitute some form of lockdown.

    There is a difference between a full lockdown, which some jurisdictions experienced, and what is going on now. I’m not endorsing the restrictions; just trying to stay factual. To equate a full lockdown to the middling, yet still obnoxious, current regime is dishonest, almost as dishonest as previous claims such as “We’re unwilling to even protest over being locked in our homes” or “forced to wear masks even when healthy and outdoors”, both of which are literally untrue.

    The Sinistral Bassist:
    The fact that you appear unbothered by the state of things shows you’ve already become mentally conditioned to acquiescing to the new status quo.

    Your mind reading skills are slipping. Indeed, I am bothered. I’m just not hysterical, like, ahem, some people.

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  13. Robert A. McReynolds:
    Self segregation is also only a half measure because they can still reach you through force of the State in the form of lawfare.

    You misunderstand my meaning. You left out the part about “peaceful separation.” Let me refresh your memory:

     A more promising path forward is peaceful separation by self-segregation. [emphasis added]

    There’s simply no reason to imagine that the fate of the American Empire will be any different from the fate of previous empires. When peaceful coexistence is no longer operative, peaceful separation is the best solution.

    Unless you had in mind some kind of supranational legal action, lawfare is not really a thing between different countries.

    And before anyone starts yelling civil war, I’m hoping for peaceful separation. Also, I am not predicting imminent change, though it is possible:

    N.B.: I’m not predicting separation in the immediate future. It’s one possible outcome of the current unrest but the denouement will probably be postponed.

    Or, what the heck, maybe just read the whole thing.

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  14. Robert A. McReynolds:
    It is simply wrong to state, on the basis of one’s own little corner of the universe, that the COVID thing is this or that. In some states, this has been an excuse to unleash tyranny by State governments. In other States, not so much. And even still in portions of states where there is tyranny, freedom still reigns supreme.

    Exactly, which is why preposterous statements such as “We’re unwilling to even protest over being locked in our homes” are not only false but ridiculous. In Wuhan, the ChinComs literally locked people in their own homes. Some are apparently confused about what those words mean, or perhaps they live in Wuhan.

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  15. Handy guide to drlorentz’s threat levels (h/t British joke):

    • Miffed
    • Peeved
    • Irritated
    • Rather Cross

    When WuFlu restrictions were initially imposed in March, the level was immediately raised from Miffed to Irritated, and eventually to Rather Cross. As they were lifted somewhat, the threat level was lowered to Irritated, briefly being raised to Rather Cross on Independence Day until it was downgraded to Peeved, which is where the threat level stands today.

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  16. Damocles:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    The problem is that, on my own, no I am not going to go in there guns ablazin–as much as I would love to to just take a few them out for good. Solitary action is stupid. What I suggest–although I have no idea how to do this–is to gather a group of like minded Patriots, armed if necessary, and go to these little “demonstrations” with the intent to either A) exercise our rights to be where we wish to be in a free society (in Posobiec’s case a park in DC) or B) exercise our right to self defense as a group. Hell they are the ones who want this crap anyway. They want the violence. I say we give it to them. But it cannot be done by individuals. It has to be done by groups of people with common interests and desires.

    I think if we look where that’s been tried, it hasn’t been sustainable and was counterproductive.  Look at the Proud Boys in Berkeley.

    OTOH, does it make a difference that Tom Cotton is a Senator now?  I think so, and I’m happy for whatever my tiny contribution of time and money helped put him there.

    Likewise, I think everybody should be supporting this candidate who will be running against Ilhan Omar.  Will it make a difference?  Who knows, but at least I have the satisfaction of having supported people who are giving it a shot.  Help her out, she’s fighting some pretty big guns!

    https://daliaforcongress.com

    Oh yeah let’s leave out the fact that NOT ONE CON PUBLICATION VOICED SUPPORT for the PB.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/gavin-mcinnes-proud-boys-poisonous-violence/

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  17. drlorentz:

    Robert A. McReynolds:
    Self segregation is also only a half measure because they can still reach you through force of the State in the form of lawfare.

    You misunderstand my meaning. You left out the part about “peaceful separation.” Let me refresh your memory:

     A more promising path forward is peaceful separation by self-segregation. [emphasis added]

    There’s simply no reason to imagine that the fate of the American Empire will be any different from the fate of previous empires. When peaceful coexistence is no longer operative, peaceful separation is the best solution.

    Unless you had in mind some kind of supranational legal action, lawfare is not really a thing between different countries.

    And before anyone starts yelling civil war, I’m hoping for peaceful separation. Also, I am not predicting imminent change, though it is possible:

    N.B.: I’m not predicting separation in the immediate future. It’s one possible outcome of the current unrest but the denouement will probably be postponed.

    Or, what the heck, maybe just read the whole thing.

    No you’re right. I did miss that. My apologies Doc.

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  18. drlorentz:
    Handy guide to drlorentz’s threat levels (h/t British joke):

    • Miffed
    • Peeved
    • Irritated
    • Rather Cross

    When WuFlu restrictions were initially imposed in March, the level was immediately raised from Miffed to Irritated, and eventually to Rather Cross. As they were lifted somewhat, the threat level was lowered to Irritated, briefly being raised to Rather Cross on Independence Day until it was downgraded to Peeved, which is where the threat level stands today.

    Doc, your progression is cute.

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  19. Well, I feel bad when I have to evict a baby bunny burrow in the middle of my lawn. Don’t even like killing bugs 🐛 but will if they don’t stay in their realm. However, what the left is doing has forced my mind to relish the thought of shooting mostly peaceful protestors.

    I am hopeful this thought is growing like weeds.

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  20. drlorentz:

    The Sinistral Bassist:
    Are you allowed to eat inside at full capacity? Are you allowed inside the bar at all? Are businesses being fined for violations? We can be pedantic and go through state by state and detail how the level of lockdown varies, or we can admit that five months into “15 days” any restrictions at all still constitute some form of lockdown.

    There is a difference between a full lockdown, which some jurisdictions experienced, and what is going on now. I’m not endorsing the restrictions; just trying to stay factual. To equate a full lockdown to the middling, yet still obnoxious, current regime is dishonest, almost as dishonest as previous claims such as “We’re unwilling to even protest over being locked in our homes” or “forced to wear masks even when healthy and outdoors”, both of which are literally untrue.

    The Sinistral Bassist:
    The fact that you appear unbothered by the state of things shows you’ve already become mentally conditioned to acquiescing to the new status quo.

    Your mind reading skills are slipping. Indeed, I am bothered. I’m just not hysterical, like, ahem, some people.

    Thanks for proving my point: as long as you can dine out and not wear a mask, you don’t care if anyone else is restricted and has to wear a mask like the employees. You personally aren’t inconvenienced enough to care and do something about others who are. Your actions show your higher principle is not limited government and forcing politicians to obey the law, but on your personal comfort. If I’m hysterical, at least I’m not a lazy hypocrite who expects someone else to do the work because I can’t be bothered to sacrifice my own comfort.

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  21. The Sinistral Bassist:

    drlorentz:

    The Sinistral Bassist:
    Are you allowed to eat inside at full capacity? Are you allowed inside the bar at all? Are businesses being fined for violations? We can be pedantic and go through state by state and detail how the level of lockdown varies, or we can admit that five months into “15 days” any restrictions at all still constitute some form of lockdown.

    There is a difference between a full lockdown, which some jurisdictions experienced, and what is going on now. I’m not endorsing the restrictions; just trying to stay factual. To equate a full lockdown to the middling, yet still obnoxious, current regime is dishonest, almost as dishonest as previous claims such as “We’re unwilling to even protest over being locked in our homes” or “forced to wear masks even when healthy and outdoors”, both of which are literally untrue.

    The Sinistral Bassist:
    The fact that you appear unbothered by the state of things shows you’ve already become mentally conditioned to acquiescing to the new status quo.

    Your mind reading skills are slipping. Indeed, I am bothered. I’m just not hysterical, like, ahem, some people.

    Thanks for proving my point: as long as you can dine out and not wear a mask, you don’t care if anyone else is restricted and has to wear a mask like the employees. You personally aren’t inconvenienced enough to care and do something about others who are. Your actions show your higher principle is not limited government and forcing politicians to obey the law, but on your personal comfort. If I’m hysterical, at least I’m not a lazy hypocrite who expects someone else to do the work because I can’t be bothered to sacrifice my own comfort.

    This is a dishonest misrepresentation of what I’ve written on this thread.

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