700 Years, Minimum, to Go!

In connection with the catchphrase “white supremacy“, I’ve been trying to ascertain when the Left thinks it allegedly started.    We recently had a little contretemps  here about BC and AD vs. BCE and CE.  That would suggest that what they’re saying is alleged global (or aspirationally global)  hegemony of “whites”coincides with Classical Greek and Roman civilization,  and  (brace yourself) Christianity.
Okay, even if we take it back  to Alexander’s Hellenization of as much of the world as he could conquer.thats about 320 BC.  2340 years ago.  Ci siamo?

The non-white civilizations of Mesopotamia, India, China and Egypt (MICE, if you want to commit this to memory—easy for US, O Ratty!)   all dominated the globe, or as much of it as they knew about, for at least 3000 years.

So, IF there is such a thing as “global white supremacy”,  I reckon we oughta have close to 700 more years coming to us. 🤞

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5 thoughts on “700 Years, Minimum, to Go!”

  1. White Supremacy – Create it.
    Black Lies Matter –  Seize it.
    Democrat Socialism – Destroy it.

    This is why it is called “supremacy.”

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  2. Ancient Macedonians were “White”?  Next thing, you will be arguing that today’s Italians are “White”.  🙂

    To be slightly more serious, it is arguable to start the clock on “White” Supremacy with Alexander the Great.  After all, he arose out of a part of the world which had long been dominated by “White” Greek city states.  That would take us back to maybe 600 BC or earlier, suggesting that the time for “White” Supremacy is almost up.  Then there are the issues of the Persian Empire and the Mongol Empire, which might suggest that a 3 millenia supremacy is not guaranteed in the Constitution.

    To be properly serious, let me put in a plug for Prof. Kenneth W. Harl, and his Great Courses series on “Alexander the Great and the Macedonian Empire“.  Erudite, informative, witty.  Great drive-time listening if we are ever allowed to commute again.

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  3. Gavin Longmuir:
    Ancient Macedonians were “White”?  Next thing, you will be arguing that today’s Italians are “White”.  🙂

    im talking about Hellenization.

     

    To be slightly more serious, it is arguable to start the clock on “White” Supremacy with Alexander the Great.  After all, he arose out of a part of the world which had long been dominated by “White” Greek city states.  That would take us back to maybe 600 BC or earlier,

    [“part of the world” is key.  Alex took it global.]

    suggesting that the time for “White” Supremacy is almost up.  Then there are the issues of the Persian Empire and the Mongol Empire, which might suggest that a 3 millenia supremacy is not guaranteed in the Constitution.

    Really?  🤪 Thanks ever so….

    The point I’m  making is, it was white people’s turn, and there’s no reason we shouldn’t aspire to the duration of the lengthiest historical examples .

     

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  4. Gavin Longmuir:
    Ancient Macedonians were “White”?  Next thing, you will be arguing that today’s Italians are “White”.  🙂

    To be slightly more serious, it is arguable to start the clock on “White” Supremacy with Alexander the Great.  After all, he arose out of a part of the world which had long been dominated by “White” Greek city states.  That would take us back to maybe 600 BC or earlier, suggesting that the time for “White” Supremacy is almost up.

    I disagree.  In 600 BC, Greek civilization was confined to the Aegean Sea area.  Rome was only a town with a surrounding district.  Carthage was a collection of ports.  Egypt was in turmoil after recently being conquered by the Assyrians but then the Assyrian stooge on the Egyptian throne was able to fight for independence.  That was because the Neo-Babylonians revolted against the Assyrians, and eventually seized control of the Tigris and Euphrates.  Persians were still fighting Medes.  India was ruled by sixteen Vedic kingdoms who warred against each other.  China was dominant over the Far East, and was the only power of global significance.  There were regionally powerful but short-lived kingdoms in Africa and the Americas.

    The first real globally-significant power with much caucasian blood was Alexander’s kingdom, which lasted for a year and then was divided among his generals.  I think, for Hypatia’s theory, you have to date the beginning of “white supremacy”* with the rise of Julius Caesar.

    Then there are the issues of the Persian Empire and the Mongol Empire, which might suggest that a 3 millenia supremacy is not guaranteed in the Constitution.

    To be properly serious, let me put in a plug for Prof. Kenneth W. Harl, and his Great Courses series on “Alexander the Great and the Macedonian Empire“.  Erudite, informative, witty.  Great drive-time listening if we are ever allowed to commute again.

    *   Be exceedingly careful about this term.  For the purpose of discussion on this particular post, I am using Ms. Hypatia’s definition.   Definitions themselves are a ‘white value,’ according to the Smithsonian.

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  5. The first real globally-significant power …

    Since we are using “White” definitions, we have to ask ourselves what “White” (and “Other”) people’s definitions of “globally-significant” might be?

    In Adam Nicolson’s book “Sea Room“, he ruminates over the issue of when his islands started to be considered “remote”.  After all, in days when most people spent their lives within sight of the spot where they were born and no other place in the world was particularly significant, no-place could have been considered remote.  Along the same lines, the Vikings who colonized Iceland probably had a different view of what was globally-significant compared to the Bushmen of the Kalahari.  For millenia, the Chinese considered that China effectively contained all the important parts of the globe — outside China were only backwards tributary peoples.  And the Greek use of the word “barbarian” referred to peoples on the outside of the significant world who could only mouth bar-bar gobbledegook sounds.

    If we adopt the “White” definition of “globally significant” referring to the actual globe, then surely the first globally significant power was the British Empire on Which the Sun Never Set — since it actually spanned the whole globe.  If we use the midpoint of Queen Victoria’s reign as marking the start of that globally significant “White” rule, then there are thousands of years to go before the “White” turn is over.

    (Is there an emoji for “Tongue in Cheek”?)

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