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  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of S.P.Q.RatburgerS.P.Q.Ratburger 3 days, 22 hours ago

    There is a Polish family named Scaevola-Wieczorkiewicz! And that is not all: Wacław S-W was a General in the “9th Legions Infantry Regiment.” So, Legions and Scaevola are admired in Poland as well as the former Roman Empire.

    This showed up while I was looking for something else: the Legio IX Hispana, the “Lost Legion.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_IX_Hispana

    It seems there is quite a controversy as to what happened to them. Rosemary Sutcliff’s “The Eagle of the Ninth” popularized one theory. It is a great YA adventure story, first in a trilogy, and…[Read more]

  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of Joy GroupJoy Group 2 weeks, 5 days ago

    The air is hot, but no matter. It is overflowing with the fragrance of new-mown hay. There is nothing like it.

    • I have to say that I miss that kind of thing a bit now that I live in the arid West. The air is simply not as fragrant here.


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    • Is it similar to the smell of grass? I remember that smell.

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 4 weeks, 1 day ago

    “one suspect it, like “AREPO” itself, was invented to make the palindrome and square work ”

    Yay – a message for us from Ancient Geeks!

  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of S.P.Q.RatburgerS.P.Q.Ratburger 1 month ago

    Salvēte, omnes!

    W2, “Sententiae Antiquae,” #2 is Virgil, “Fāma et sententia volant.”

    “Sententia” is earlier given as several distinct things: “feeling, thought, opinion, vote, sentence.”

    And “volare” is given as “to fly, to move quickly.”

    So far, so good. The problem is when I take a squint at the citation listed in the tippy back of of the book (p. 507) it claims that the SA#2 is simplified from something in Aeneid 3.121. That would be “Fama volat . . .” as here:

    http://dcc.dickinson.edu/vergil-aeneid/vergil-aeneid-iii-121-134

    That is translated by others as “the report r…[Read more]

    • It’s one of the reasons that Wheelock is one of the top books for learning Latin.


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  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 1 month ago

    Optima!

  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of S.P.Q.RatburgerS.P.Q.Ratburger 1 month, 2 weeks ago

    Quid est ” || ” ?

    Only now making a first study of the terrific Scaevola posts, I’ve come to ” || ” in the scansion parts. Is it a two-beat pause?

    For example, in (#4) the couplet is six and six; therefore couple of beats of silence after that singleton ” ° ” is the only way I can make the second line really be six:

    Form = Elegiac Couplet

    X / X / X / X / D / Y

    X / X / ° || D / D / ˉ

    (It could be a convenient moment of silence in which to wonder whether Parallels is slowing down my system, or if I would notice even if it were, since I am even slower.)

    Gratias –
    Iuliana

    • Thank you for asking this, jzdro. I overlooked explaining the “||” notation.

      The “||” is called a “hiatus.” It is a pronounced pause in the line.

      That pause is why this form works so well with humor: it sets up a punchline.


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    • I have updated post #6 to include an explanation of “||”


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  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 1 month, 2 weeks ago

    What a terrific video! Thanks!

    How come they say “Lagana” when Latdict gives us “laganum, lagani”?

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 1 month, 2 weeks ago

    “TuTubulum!” ” TuTubulum!” ” TuTubulum!” Tantam felicitatem!

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months ago

    Zipadee doo dah!

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months ago

    Oratio poetica, Magister Pater Possum!

    Beatus est, et bene, apes? ad domum tuam?

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months ago

    Vero!

  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of S.P.Q.RatburgerS.P.Q.Ratburger 2 months ago

    Salvete! Si valetis, valeo.

    Laudo Wheelock- amo et laudo! Festino lente. Monete me, amabo te, si erro.

    Quid novi? “Ioci terribiles?” (W6, p.8)

    Tabulae hic sunt:

    http://awmc.unc.edu/wordpress/free-maps/the-romans-from-village-to-empire-2nd-edition-2011/

    Labor me vocat. Boves me vocant. Asparagi me vocant.

    Valete!
    Iuliana

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months, 1 week ago

    Gratias tibi, Magister. It is a help to have a proper target identified.

  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of S.P.Q.RatburgerS.P.Q.Ratburger 2 months, 1 week ago

    I am having fun pronouncing “urbs.”

    Even more fun are the histories of Servus Rick.

    It’s intriguing that the poetry is so about the rhythm. Word order is of little to no consquence: not even a possessive adjective has to stick next to its noun! How do people read a Latin sentence? Since you can’t just read it left to right, you must be doing something else. Instead of studying I have been thinking up two alternative ways of reading a Latin sentence:

    1. Travel left to right, and when a word appears out of logical order, pull it up onto a siding and let it wait there. When…[Read more]

    • How do people read a Latin sentence?

      Much more easily than they read a line of Latin verse!

      Depending on the difficulty of the sentence (I’m looking at *you*, Cicero) you’ll have resort to 2 and scan a few times. However, what you’re shooting for is 1.

      And, oh yeah… urps.


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    • Gratias tibi, Magister. It is a help to have a proper target identified.

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months, 1 week ago

    Lemme guess, Bryan. You tell them that, too. You know what is going to happen? Sure you do: they will call you up, and visit you, and everything, when they are all grown up. Congrats ahead of time!

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months, 1 week ago

    Hi Blondie. “English peas” is a new term for me! The peas now up are of the kind you eat, not the lovely “sweet pea” flower. They are from Scheepers, and are the “Little Snow Pea” (30 days; eat the flat pods;) “Sugar Snap” (60 days; eat the nubblier pods;) and the magnificent “Sugar Magnolia Purple Snap” (60 days; usually shell them; richly purple flowers and pods.) Do you have favorites?

  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months, 1 week ago

    Peas planted in the veg garden 10 days ago have germinated (not drowned, nor been eaten by chipmunks or squirrels) and their little seed-leaves are starting to stick up from the ground.

    Bonus: Nobody need worry that a link will be posted here to a video clip of these baby pea plants, with an audio track of foolish shrieking about the “magic” of “food coming from dirt.” Boyoboy, the joyful tidings are stacking up today.

    (That was an AOC reference.)

  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of Joy GroupJoy Group 2 months, 1 week ago

    Peas are up.

    • What does that mean? I am a city boy.

    • Peas planted in the veg garden 10 days ago have germinated (not drowned, nor been eaten by chipmunks or squirrels) and their little seed-leaves are starting to stick up from the ground.

      Bonus: Nobody need worry that a link will be posted here to a video clip of these baby pea plants, with an audio track of foolish shrieking about the “magic” of “food coming from dirt.” Boyoboy, the joyful tidings are stacking up today.

      (That was an AOC reference.)


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    • English peas, I assume.

    • Hi Blondie. “English peas” is a new term for me! The peas now up are of the kind you eat, not the lovely “sweet pea” flower. They are from Scheepers, and are the “Little Snow Pea” (30 days; eat the flat pods;) “Sugar Snap” (60 days; eat the nubblier pods;) and the magnificent “Sugar Magnolia Purple Snap” (60 days; usually shell them; richly purple flowers and pods.) Do you have favorites?


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    • I love Sugar Snap peas.


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  • jzdro posted an update in the group Group logo of S.P.Q.RatburgerS.P.Q.Ratburger 2 months, 2 weeks ago

    Question from one in the Slow Class: Is there supposed to be a vocal stop between two successive consonants?

    W6, page xlii explains that the Romans pronounced such as “two separate consonants.” So I started practicing that, for example with “currant.”

    (They do so in Polish, by the way, quite clearly in the audio lessons I’ve heard.)

    @10 Cents kindly recommended the Wheelock Official website pronunciation help page: http://www.wheelockslatin.com/chapters/introduction/introduction_consonants.html

    There an instructor says “currant” and also “admittent” with no stop between the…[Read more]

    • The way I think about it, though maybe not correct, is that it matters where the double consonant is accented.

      Roman poetry was rhythmic: each syllable had a time value. A long value had twice the length of a short one. And in verse, if a short vowel came before a double consonant (well, most double consonants), even if the second consonant was the beginning of the next word, then that vowel was promoted from short to long.

      So, think of it this way, the u in currant, in verse would be long.

      If you say curr-ant, then both vowels sound short.

      But if you say cu-rrant, then the u sounds…[Read more]


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  • jzdro posted a new activity comment 2 months, 2 weeks ago

    I just remember about Shuttle tiles coming off on re-entry: ablation, they called it.

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